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  • My mare will charge me on the ground what do i do
  • Things to do when im doing ground work with my horse

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    05-21-2012, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by nvr2many    
Ok, I will share MY delima. I have horses that are buddy sour. I am going to work them from the ground to gain respect. Just wondered what others have to say about ground work. I can get on and go, any time, but alone??? Not so much! He balks, turns, spins, sucks!!!
If you refer to what I said at the bottom, you should have a better understanding of what is going on and what you can do to help him get out of that mentality.

I'll let you think of ways you could help him become less buddy sour. And then I'll give my input :)

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Thank you, id like to hear about respect for your space and also you as a leader. Any thoughts on this?
Respect for your space is a constant thought in your horse's mind because in a herd, the herd leader will push the horses, ask them to yield, and if they don't they get corrected and depending on the infraction.. it may be a mild correction or a big correction.

So for you to be a leader, you need to direct the horse, enforce boundaries, and back off when necessary. This can be done through ground work and even interactions in the field (but be careful!) It is also done in riding, but I'd say (this is my opinion) 60% of it happens in the ground work, 30% in handling, and 10% in riding. But they all mesh together and you can't focus on just ONE area because as mentioned, it's a constant thought in the horse's mind. If you let them get away with it in one area, they are likely to test you in others. And if they get away with it again, it begins to escalate.
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    05-21-2012, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyseternalangel    
If you refer to what I said at the bottom, you should have a better understanding of what is going on and what you can do to help him get out of that mentality.

I'll let you think of ways you could help him become less buddy sour. And then I'll give my input :)



Respect for your space is a constant thought in your horse's mind because in a herd, the herd leader will push the horses, ask them to yield, and if they don't they get corrected and depending on the infraction.. it may be a mild correction or a big correction.

So for you to be a leader, you need to direct the horse, enforce boundaries, and back off when necessary. This can be done through ground work and even interactions in the field (but be careful!) It is also done in riding, but I'd say (this is my opinion) 60% of it happens in the ground work, 30% in handling, and 10% in riding. But they all mesh together and you can't focus on just ONE area because as mentioned, it's a constant thought in the horse's mind. If you let them get away with it in one area, they are likely to test you in others. And if they get away with it again, it begins to escalate.
Thank you! I am not saying that I do not know things to try or collected lots of info from the wonderful people here. I just want to hear others thoughts, opinions and experiences. To add to my own or to say, oh see, I do that! Nice to share and reinforce.
     
    05-21-2012, 10:01 PM
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I'm not saying you don't know anything either :) Just giving you things to think about.

The way I deal with buddy sour horses is make time with me interesting, low stress, and feel good. I give them boundaries to stay out of my space, they ask if they can get their ears rubbed instead of just using me as a human scratching post, and I don't let them push me around.

Now if the horse is trying to take charge when I'm riding, that's a different story. I work hard at where they want to be, and we take it easy when they are where I want to be (away from their buddies)

If I want to ride alone on a trail I prepare the horse by hand walking them. I re-establish my role as herd leader by giving them little 'jobs' to do along the trail when I feel their focus isn't on me. And when they listen well, then I let them completely mac out and just enjoy life.

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    05-21-2012, 10:16 PM
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If I want to ride alone on a trail I prepare the horse by hand walking them. I re-establish my role as herd leader by giving them little 'jobs' to do along the trail when I feel their focus isn't on me. And when they listen well, then I let them completely mac out and just enjoy life. :)
Oh I get what your saying. But the above, is kinda what I was getting at. You post that you give them little jobs but you do not say what those jobs are. I am just trying to get and give others ideas of what others do when their horses act up or challenge them.
And thanks!!! I appreciate your info. The more the better!!!
     
    05-21-2012, 10:18 PM
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Oh and I love the "mac out" thing. That is something I would say, lol.
     
    05-21-2012, 10:50 PM
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You post that you give them little jobs but you do not say what those jobs are.

Alright I'll explain myself some more.

If the horse loses focus on me I take them in a nice circle, or if space doesn't allow that, I weave the path instead of taking it straight, I leg yield from one side to another, if I could sidepass (haven't learned that yet) then I would add that in too. I add transitions from walk to trot and back to walk. I check to see if my horse is paying attention by halting them and making them stand, backing them up, encouraging them to flex from side to side. I add figure eights into large areas, working on keeping him bent.

Now with Sky, when he does good, I give him a nice loose rein and we go forward. If I feel his focus is dwindling, I do one or a few of the above.

When we encounter something he doesn't like on the trail, like if he's spooking at a dog, I bend him away from the dog and give him other things to focus on (as mentioned above) than the dog. If I let his mind think about the dog, he will bolt off because he's nervous around them.

But usually he's very good about listening to me and we don't do many "focus on me" exercises but I do make him halt and wait to continue. I do leg yield him at times to see if he's paying attention, and when we encounter a dog, I help him get past it because I am his herd leader, therefore he knows I won't lead him into danger because in the past I have kept him safe and kept him out of trouble.

It all depends on the horse and the situation but I hope that helped this time. I didn't realize I was being vague.
     
    05-21-2012, 11:02 PM
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Alright I'll explain myself some more.

If the horse loses focus on me I take them in a nice circle, or if space doesn't allow that, I weave the path instead of taking it straight, I leg yield from one side to another, if I could sidepass (haven't learned that yet) then I would add that in too. I add transitions from walk to trot and back to walk. I check to see if my horse is paying attention by halting them and making them stand, backing them up, encouraging them to flex from side to side. I add figure eights into large areas, working on keeping him bent.

Now with Sky, when he does good, I give him a nice loose rein and we go forward. If I feel his focus is dwindling, I do one or a few of the above.

When we encounter something he doesn't like on the trail, like if he's spooking at a dog, I bend him away from the dog and give him other things to focus on (as mentioned above) than the dog. If I let his mind think about the dog, he will bolt off because he's nervous around them.

But usually he's very good about listening to me and we don't do many "focus on me" exercises but I do make him halt and wait to continue. I do leg yield him at times to see if he's paying attention, and when we encounter a dog, I help him get past it because I am his herd leader, therefore he knows I won't lead him into danger because in the past I have kept him safe and kept him out of trouble.

It all depends on the horse and the situation but I hope that helped this time. I didn't realize I was being vague.
Oh no, its ok! I love this post! I do a lot of the things you have listed above and hearing you do it too makes me feel good! I come up with these things on my own and think others (my husband) may think im crazy. I am legging back and forth, bending, softening, backing, stop, go, what ever! I am very happy to hear you do those things too. I am also working on side passing. Funny thing. I was riding with a friend and trying things out in a pasture just for fun. And she said I as doing it for a bit. Its hard to tell on a 17hh horse, I am always asking, does he look ok. What is he doing, lol.

Anyway, thank you so much. You have been very helpful and have very valuable info.
Made me feel tons better about what I have been doing!!! Oh and as far as the dog thing. I get that too! I try to make sure I do not stop and let him stare at the "scary" thing! It can really mess with their minds!
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    05-21-2012, 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by nvr2many    
Anyway, thank you so much. You have been very helpful and have very valuable info.
Made me feel tons better about what I have been doing!!! Oh and as far as the dog thing. I get that too! I try to make sure I do not stop and let him stare at the "scary" thing! It can really mess with their minds!
You're welcome :P And yeah it's nice when you can think on your feet and make up things to do and it works!! And yeah I always ask if I'm doing things right on my big boy too. He's very forward on the ground but when I'm riding I know he can do better so I always nag my instructor "Do we look okay?" "Is he dragging his feet?" "Is he infront or flush with the vertical?" "He feels like he's starting to use his back"

Pretty sure the trainer wants some duct tape when I'm about
     

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