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    11-27-2012, 03:39 PM
  #1
Weanling
Question Liberty work (similar to Klaus Ferdinand Hempfling?)

Hey guys,

I was just wondering... well, I've recently seen the work of Klaus Ferdinand Hempfling, and I was wondering how do I achieve similar at liberty work?

Obviously, I know I can't just click my fingers and my horses do as I say!

I know how to do join up and have good knowledge of body language. I also have some knowledge of Parelli, although I think it's fair to say I'm not a die hard NH guru fan (although I only do NH, I don't follow one technique - I do what is most simply, effective and fair to my horse mentally and physically. Common sense really)

Now, I haven't seen much of this guys work, and he is probably, like most NH gurus, controversial, as they always spark of some debate of their practices. That's not what I'm looking for.

What I would like to know is, from the very start, how do I begin to work like this.

I've done join up in a round pen and also in an open field, but I've noticed this guy is different. Can somebody talk me through the process of this technique from starting at the beginnign (basic work I'd have to do to get me horse focused - for example - you know, all the little things to work up to it; I'm guessing it's not one of those things you just go "Right Velvet, now I'm going to do this, you're going to do that, and we'll be professionals by tea time!")

I know this will be a difficult process, and I know I may not achieve it, but I'd really like to try! :) (I feel like a kid again, like before you do your first jump, or you go for your first gallop! It's something I've never done, but I'd really like to work towards it!)

Any book/link/dvd other media to take a look into I'd also be interested in!

Also, Mods, if this needs to be moved specifically to the NH category, please move, I wasn't sure where this needed to be :p

Many thanks

Holly
     
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    11-27-2012, 06:31 PM
  #2
Weanling
Please excuse my spelling, I've just noticed it and now I can't edit hehe.
I meant *Simple and *Off

Also, please someone answer, I'm really interested. Even if it's just a link or book to help me get started
     
    11-27-2012, 10:07 PM
  #3
Yearling
Some good stuff here (podcasts)

Podcasts | Klaus Ferdinand Hempfling Australia

I've studied some of Klaus' work too, and to summarize it in a forum post would be exceedingly difficult lol. Dancing With Horses is a good book and explains a lot of the basics of the KFH style. What Horses Reveal has some parts that grabbed me and other parts that lost me. It gets into some areas that are a little too esoteric even for me. I haven't read The Horse Seeks Me yet, but it's on my list. I too am fascinated by Klaus' ability to so dramatically engage the enthusiasm of his horses!
     
    11-28-2012, 03:56 PM
  #4
Weanling
Thanks for your reply Ian! I'll certainly have a look into the pod-cast (I'll also be adding those books to my Christmas list hehe)

It seems beautiful, even more breath taking than join up (I remember when I first saw Monty Roberts do join up... Wow! Now I can do it pretty easily, and the looks on my non horsey friends' faces.. Not that it's for the show, but I think it is incredible to have that kind of connection with your horses! Join up still never fails to put a smile on my face, even now after a good 4 years)

KFH seems to really captivate his horses focus and heart. Truly beautiful, something I would love to do!
     
    11-28-2012, 10:45 PM
  #5
Foal
Subbing. I, too, am interested!!
     
    11-28-2012, 11:03 PM
  #6
Super Moderator
I do not think you can learn this by writing/reading. It is a "doing" thing. I believe he or folks he trains give clinics and if you are serious to learn it, take a clinic.
I don't mean to sound abrupt, but without some visual, I think it's hard to learn how to do. Best is when you work with a real human helping you.
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    11-29-2012, 12:38 AM
  #7
Yearling
Klaus is what you could call a 'natural' horseman (not to be confused with Natural Horsemanship lol). I'm drawing a contrast here between a 'natural' and a 'learned' horseman. His contention is that the horses work for him the way they do simply because he is who he is, and in his books he attempts to communicate understanding of exactly what that means. His style of writing sometimes borders on the fantasy, and would be as at-home in the New Age section of Barnes N Noble as in the horses section. I personally enjoy it, but it'll be a little out-there for some.

One of my favorite parts of Dancing With Horses is what he has to say on the subject of colt starting, or as they call it in Europe "riding in" young horses. He does very little round pen work compared to what we've become accustomed to in America. Instead, he takes the horses for walks out in the countryside (and later in town) until they get to know each other well, and then he'll occasionally begin to hop up on their back and ride. As he puts it, "In this way a young horse grows naturally into his role as a riding horse, without any traumatic experiences involved".
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    11-29-2012, 05:50 PM
  #8
Weanling
Tinyliny, I totally agree! I have been searching for a few clinics, however, there are a lot of "wannabes" out there who claim to be able to do this, and then can't. I had a bad experience with a 1* parelli instructor... I thought the 1* at least showed they'd passed a handful of exams and had a lot of know how. It was a disaster and set my youngster back a lot. It's difficult to find the real deal, but I'd love to find someone who can show me what to do.

Ian, I've asked my Mum for the books you mentioned, he sounds a bit kooky but I'd be really interested to read them! I know what you mean about being a Natural Horseman. I do have an affinity with horses, but not to the extent of him. I think everyone on this site has an affinity with equines, otherwise I don't think we'd be here talking about them non-stop! I'd love to have such a strong bond with the horse as much as he does, I think I hold myself back a bit (be it lack of belief, fear that I may be doing something wrong... Etc. He doesn't appear to have those inhibitions!)
     
    11-30-2012, 10:07 AM
  #9
Showing
Klaus' real training is Communication. He was a little older when he got involved with horses and it was his training that proved to be a great asset. He is skilled with human body language and put this to good use with horses by being ever observant. This is what he teaches. There is a youtube video where he handles a dangerous stallion around a mare in standing heat. Notice as he walks how large he makes himself with outstretched arms and steps toward the horse when it's focus switches to the mare. That is one tiny aspect of his methods. Google Carolyn Resnick and join her blog. She also dances with her horses and has a number of videos on her sight and she speaks of why we should do as she does.
     
    04-12-2013, 02:24 PM
  #10
Foal
Here is a great video from Hempfling - it has just been published and gives quite a few good hints:
I do agree that attending a course will be the best way to learn it - I did once at the time when he was living in Spain. It was VERY GOOD!!!
But I also think his new Facebook page is quite Unique in giving a lot of insights which are absolutely essential if you are serious about learning from him. Meanwhile he also has such a lot of videos on his YT channels that you can get quite a complete picture - but it will make the road a lot easier to experience him live at least once.
     

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