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        02-11-2010, 04:45 PM
      #21
    Green Broke
    Pictures can be subjective. If these are the only photos you have, unfortunately, you're only make yourself look bad.

    The first photo does not show an unhappy horse - his head is not unnaturally high, in fact his head is held at almost the ideal natural level you would expect on a horse not being asked to frame up. I do not see any indication in that first photo of abuse or upset. Yes, he looks nice in your photo, but he is lacking all impulsion and is behind the vertical. And the last photo you posted shows me nothing but a capable trainer doing the correct thing for a horse that is racy and high headed - dropping your hands and asking him to give.

    You are confusing "racy" with impulsion and that is very incorrect. A racy or wrangy horse has absolutely zero to do with impulsion - in fact, a racy or wrangy horse probably has LESS true impulsion then a quiet horse. Impulsion is entirely from the engine - the hind end. A nervous and jumpy horse with it's head in the air is using it's front end and dragging it's back end.

    Ultimately, I hate to say it, but what you are creating in this horse is actually HARDER to fix then a racy/wrangy/nervous horse. Horses that learn to suck behind the bit and avoid using their hind ends are a royal PITA to re-school because nothing short of a beating will get them moving out properly.

    I am not trying to be rude, I am just being realistic and informing you of what I see.
         
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        02-11-2010, 05:02 PM
      #22
    Trained
    If you seem to be attracting negative energy on here then generally it is you - I have never felt responses to any of my threads to be negative. You need to think about what you are writing, and how you are wording it, and what the likely reaction will be. You have posted numerous times about your problems with Chance - And admitted numerous times that you feel she may be too much for you - So of course you will get a somewhat negative response when you post that you will be training another horse when you haven't been able to resolve the issues with your own.

    I agree with Iride - Most posts and threads on here are very positive - maybe look at what and how you post honestly and assess why you are getting negative responses?
         
        02-11-2010, 05:27 PM
      #23
    Showing
    I think part of what gets people riled is that she posts snarky things about others, but doesn't want anything she says questioned.

    I didn't see anything 'horrible' about the picture of the trainer, but according to the OP, she's an evil devil who takes delight in messing up horses and abusing them. Those are pretty awful accusations, and the horse world is a small place. She'd better hope the trainer doesn't get wind of what's been posted here.

    I don't think the OP is a trainer by any stretch of the imagination, especially if she can't even figure out what's wrong with her own horse and fix it.

    I'd certainly not let anyone train an animal of mine who had nothing good to say about anyone else. Being small minded, petty, and vindictive are not traits I want to see in someone to whom I'm entrusting a beloved animal.

    Even if you don't agree with someone's methods, very few trainers who actually make a profession of it are abusive.
         
        02-11-2010, 08:22 PM
      #24
    Green Broke
    I didnt mention the physical thing because I JUST found out today. -.-! Theres nothing "wrong" with my horse..

    If you saw how Little was before the "trainer" got to him you would understand.

    Also I never said the head set in that picture was like rolkur I said the END result was. Maybe you should read what I wrote...

    And when I horse starts to drip sweat after 20 mins of riding.. no more then a trot in the WINTER.. that's saying how stressed out that horse is. ALSO considering she turned a nice calm Standardbred into a bucking bronc undersaddle.. and lashes out when being girthed up... that tells you something aswell.. but no of course she's everyones dream trainer ;)

    Why the hell are we bringing my posts about CHANCE into a post about LITTLE?!

    Considering everyone in my barn and even the owner of the horse is very impressed with what I've done with him.. I must be doing nothing right....

    Im done I want this thread closed...
         
        02-11-2010, 08:29 PM
      #25
    Green Broke
    There is incredible insight and wisdom being put forth in this thread - unfortunately it will all go over the OPs head, again.
         
        02-11-2010, 08:33 PM
      #26
    Trained
    You don't know that anything is wrong with your horse. The vet said there may be something wrong and is doing blood tests. Unless you have the fastest animal diagnostic lab in the country at your disposal the results can't be back yet. Nobody said the other trainer was great we just suggested that maybe you don't have the know how yet to train anyone elses horses. If you believe you do then go right ahead but I would recommend that you don't post any problems you encounter on this forum.
         
        02-11-2010, 08:40 PM
      #27
    Trained
    Quote:
    thats saying how stressed out that horse is.
    Or how unfit/sweat prone it is.
         
        02-11-2010, 08:42 PM
      #28
    Showing
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by iridehorses    
    Although we will remove pictures of people/horses used without permission, the rider is not shown or identified so I see no problem with it.
    I'd be really mad if someone would post me working with the horse with the comments how horrible I ride. Even if the person would chop off my head with photoshop. I could still recognize myself and that would be already rude enough for me.
         
        02-11-2010, 08:45 PM
      #29
    Foal
    Michele you are one hated person on here!
         
        02-11-2010, 08:47 PM
      #30
    Started
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    Originally Posted by HorsesAreForever    
    I didnt mention the physical thing because I JUST found out today. -.-! Theres nothing "wrong" with my horse..

    If you saw how Little was before the "trainer" got to him you would understand.

    Also I never said the head set in that picture was like rolkur I said the END result was. Maybe you should read what I wrote...

    And when I horse starts to drip sweat after 20 mins of riding.. no more then a trot in the WINTER.. that's saying how stressed out that horse is. ALSO considering she turned a nice calm Standardbred into a bucking bronc undersaddle.. and lashes out when being girthed up... that tells you something aswell.. but no of course she's everyones dream trainer ;)

    Why the hell are we bringing my posts about CHANCE into a post about LITTLE?!

    Considering everyone in my barn and even the owner of the horse is very impressed with what I've done with him.. I must be doing nothing right....

    Im done I want this thread closed...
    Swearing and using caps gets you no where.

    So because when I ride my horse and he works up a sweat I'm doing something wrong?! I don't think so. My horse sweats after a 20 minute ride, quite frankly I think if a horse doesn't then it really isn't a workout for him.

    We're bringing in your other posts because your talking about how much experience you have and how much you know but yet we have a million examples of how ignorant you are. And by what you just said proves it

    Don't get mad when we call you out, you just can't handle the truth. Please when you grow up a little and can take some criticism like a big girl, come and talk to us again.
         

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