Originally Posted by Rides2win
I should have been more specific she is broke and does drive from behind and I'm just looking for her to drop a little more and bring her nose in.. Also I don't plan to tie her head to her knees like you seem to think I do I was just saying I would like to try to work her in the draw reins or a martingail on a loose setting to finish her head set
So forget the devices - you don't have the knowledge to properly use them. Instead when working her forward use the reins - gently - to ask her to lower her head by flexing her inside/release/outside and add a LITTLE leg. She should lower her head a bit, then keep reins steady to "tell" her that's what you wanted.
In a few strides she will probably lift her head up (or it may not have gone as low as you want it to begin with). The key here is that changing the natural carriage of her head means she needs to develop DIFFERENT muscles to carry her head in the new position. If she gets sore from you're trying to change her headset too quickly then you'll have more problems. So as (as above) then when head comes back up ask again, repeat as necessary. Over 6 months she'll start building the muscle to hold it in that slightly lower position - so if it's still not as low as you want you can start asking her to lower it more. Just don't forget the use of your legs or she will "get behind the leg" (even if she quickens her tempo) and her gaits will be crappy rather than what you want (even if her headset is where you want it).