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        04-10-2011, 09:02 PM
      #1
    Foal
    Red face Long and low

    Just bought a beautiful buckskin qh and she has never been in any type of vices. What do you suggest to start her on that long and low look? I do have a German Martin Gail and I have draw reins to lunge in what do you thi k is the best way to go about this? She is 5 ears old
         
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        04-10-2011, 09:14 PM
      #2
    Trained
    I suggest throwing the vices in the garbage and riding her properly from front to back, building up muscle by hacking in fields and on trails, and if you absolutely must use a gadget, longe in side reins as long as they are long enough to not restrict her head.
         
        04-10-2011, 09:48 PM
      #3
    Banned
    Work with the horse's natural movement. Get her broke and responsive first before thinking about any kind of special headset that doesn't relate directly to her native conformation and carriage. And then if you don't know the proper usage of a martingale, seems to me like you don't realize that collection comes from driving the horse forward with the legs and seat, not cranking them down with a bit and leverage. In which case I'd highly suggest contacting a reputable trainer before you really do end up with a "vice."
         
        04-10-2011, 10:02 PM
      #4
    Foal
    I should have been more specific she is broke and does drive from behind and I'm just looking for her to drop a little more and bring her nose in.. Also I don't plan to tie her head to her knees like you seem to think I do I was just saying I would like to try to work her in the draw reins or a martingail on a loose setting to finish her head set
         
        04-10-2011, 10:06 PM
      #5
    Banned
    Can you post some pics?
         
        04-12-2011, 10:07 AM
      #6
    Weanling
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    Originally Posted by Rides2win    
    I should have been more specific she is broke and does drive from behind and I'm just looking for her to drop a little more and bring her nose in.. Also I don't plan to tie her head to her knees like you seem to think I do I was just saying I would like to try to work her in the draw reins or a martingail on a loose setting to finish her head set
    So forget the devices - you don't have the knowledge to properly use them. Instead when working her forward use the reins - gently - to ask her to lower her head by flexing her inside/release/outside and add a LITTLE leg. She should lower her head a bit, then keep reins steady to "tell" her that's what you wanted.

    In a few strides she will probably lift her head up (or it may not have gone as low as you want it to begin with). The key here is that changing the natural carriage of her head means she needs to develop DIFFERENT muscles to carry her head in the new position. If she gets sore from you're trying to change her headset too quickly then you'll have more problems. So as (as above) then when head comes back up ask again, repeat as necessary. Over 6 months she'll start building the muscle to hold it in that slightly lower position - so if it's still not as low as you want you can start asking her to lower it more. Just don't forget the use of your legs or she will "get behind the leg" (even if she quickens her tempo) and her gaits will be crappy rather than what you want (even if her headset is where you want it).
         

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