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post #1 of 8 Old 01-25-2013, 02:10 PM Thread Starter
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Long Time No See...

Okay, for those of you who read my other post 'Trust and Respect' you will know that Breeze and I have not been the way we would like.

I haven't been to the farm in 7 days because of the cold, but I am going out there today. She is usually the same way if I don't go out there for a while. But this is the first time that I have not been out their for so many days in a row. I have missed 4 days max before, but now I missed 7 days.

My question is, what are some good ideas to do with Breeze today?

I was thinking, leading. I really want to get her to stay out of my space, and lead properly, as when we are not in pens, she is a little pushy. We have been getting better, and she isn't nearly as pushy as she was before, but is there any way to speed up the process?

I was also thinking tying. She ties really well, but when I leave her tied for more then 10 mins, with me still in view, she will start pawing. That is all she does though, is paw. It is the same if I am holding her in one place for too long. If we are just standing there, doing nothing, she will start pawing the air. I will give her a smack on the shoulder, and tell her no, but she will do it after like another 5 mins.

I do't want to be doing any lunging, or stuff where she is going fast then a walk, because of the ice. It is slippery out (a few days ago, I don't know about now) and she can trot and not slip, but if she turns in the wrong place while trotting, she will slip.

Any other ideas on what to do?
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post #2 of 8 Old 01-25-2013, 02:23 PM Thread Starter
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Also, every time I go to see her, she come to the gate as soon as I call, or when she sees me. She pretty much catches herself with her ears pricked forward. She will pin her ears though, when we do something she doesn't want to do.
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post #3 of 8 Old 01-25-2013, 03:56 PM
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It sounds like maybe work on her patience. Just have her be relaxed and stand in one area. Have her stand longer and longer and when she gets to teh point where she starts pawing do the smack thing, then relax yourself, wait a moment, and then pat her and talk to her. patience is a virtue. I had to do it with multiple horses before and eventually they realize that taking a little break and just relaxing won't kill them.

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Thank you! I just got back from the farm and she came to me like usual, and I caught her, then I just dropped the lead rope and groomed her. She stood there for a long time, she was very relaxed, her whole body was relaxed in the way her eyes were closing, her lips were droopy, and she was resting her back leg.

When she got curious of my bucket, she would go over to it, but I would back her up, and she would just stand there again. I could even walk away, and she would stand there. Then I asked her to come, two times at different places, and she came.

I am not getting my hopes up about her attitude change, but she was very good today, in the short time I was there (about 15 mins)
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One idea with the pawing (I would only try this if she's tied to something that won't break, she might jump/pull-back the first time) that I've had work is to have a pocket full of small pebbles, then zing one at the horse's feet whenever they start pawing. If the horse doesn't react to that, you can zing one at them, but usually the pebble under the feet works great.

The plus of this is that they don't end up associating you with the pebble so it stops ALL pawing, not just pawing when you're around. After a few episodes, they usually stop pawing altogether because they've put "pawing=pebble" together in their mind.

The goal is not to hit the horse with a pebble, the goal is to disrupt the behavior and stop the habit or pawing. :)

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post #6 of 8 Old 01-25-2013, 08:55 PM
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I've had a couple pawing horses. Imo, smacking them becomes a game very fast. Unless you smack them really really hard and get their attention. I prefer to tie them up and leave them standing for quite a while. Eventually they figure out that pawing, pulling, whinnying etc does them no good. My mare knows better than to paw. On the very very rare occasion that she does it in front of me, I stick my boot in front of her leg. That way she hits it when she paws. Doesn't feel good. She doesn't realize that it's me doing it, only that she smacked her leg on something.
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These are all great ideas! I will be trying them until I find one that works. Right now I am going to try and get our bond back. I am going to go out there and groom her, lead her around and love her... all while not letting her get away with any bad behaviour.

Once the snow starts to melt, I will be getting back into really doing stuff. But lately it has been to cold and icy. Today it wasn't bad, because it snowed yesterday, but once it freezes again, it will be icy again.
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I am also going to make a youtube channel for training Breeze, and doing stuff with her. It would be good for me to look over, see what I do wrong when she reacts to something. And it will also be good for some of you to see and tell me if I am I doing anything wrong, or even what I am doing right!
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