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post #1 of 7 Old 10-21-2009, 03:05 PM Thread Starter
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looking for some ideas

Murray has some behaviour issues still, and I totally claim myself as it because I do not spend the time needed for him to correct him.

Last week, he was the last one to go inside for feeding (but I had wanted to do some work with him before). He had nipped out at me and my boyfriend at his paddock, and was very pushy. Murray was really wanting to run up to the barn and into his stall for food, but I didn't want that to happen. So after struggling with him to the indoor, I hooked up the lunge line and preped him into lunging. He was full of it, bouncing up and rearing at me until he gave up and did nice trot circles. But as soon as we were heading to the barn, he started again, wanting to rush into the barn.

My coach suggested him needing a chain on his halter, as her young gelding Hollywood has.

Are there any other methods I should try on Murray? To get him to understand that I want him to listen before he gets rewarded/eats?

Due to my knees hurting lately, I do ground work with him when I can. Anything, I'm up for it. Thanks.

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post #2 of 7 Old 10-21-2009, 04:48 PM
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Put him on a diet. Is he getting grain? If he is quit giving it to him.

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okay, Ice and I had a similar fight just yesterday. He was getting REALLY pushy/nippy for no other reason other than he didn't want to have contact with people. Well, he finally nipped at my BO and she about had a cow, backing him up ten or so feet, screaming "NO" and flailing the lead rope as she went. Ices face wasn't scared at all, but he was intimidated (as he should have been) and his attention was perfectly on her.

Next time he tries to rush, try that. Make a HUGE deal out of it and then when you get far enough back stop and be completely calm like nothing happened, and if he tries to rush forward again do the same thing until he stops trying to rush. It took Ice three strong times, and then he was down to taking a half step every now and then, which we didn't allow either.

I do also have a lead rope with a stud chain, but I've only used that once, and that was when we first arrived at his new home, and since he was a racehorse, all of his previous trailering experiences were going to races and I didn't know how he would react. Like I said I've only used it once, and he didn't even need it. My advice would be if you do use it, don't run it around his nose band, just loop it through the ring for the noise when you jerk on the chain. That alone should be enough.
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I wouldn't put a chain on him. That's getting stronger and harsher, not smarter. The thing here is to work him on the ground in a way that he comes to respect you as leader. Horses do not try to bite and push around the alpha :) I'd suggest the Parelli 7 Games. I've worked with horses similar to yours using the 7 Games and it's worked wonders.
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Put him on a diet. Is he getting grain? If he is quit giving it to him.
He doesn't have grain period.

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okay, Ice and I had a similar fight just yesterday. He was getting REALLY pushy/nippy for no other reason other than he didn't want to have contact with people. Well, he finally nipped at my BO and she about had a cow, backing him up ten or so feet, screaming "NO" and flailing the lead rope as she went. Ices face wasn't scared at all, but he was intimidated (as he should have been) and his attention was perfectly on her.

Next time he tries to rush, try that. Make a HUGE deal out of it and then when you get far enough back stop and be completely calm like nothing happened, and if he tries to rush forward again do the same thing until he stops trying to rush. It took Ice three strong times, and then he was down to taking a half step every now and then, which we didn't allow either.

I do also have a lead rope with a stud chain, but I've only used that once, and that was when we first arrived at his new home, and since he was a racehorse, all of his previous trailering experiences were going to races and I didn't know how he would react. Like I said I've only used it once, and he didn't even need it. My advice would be if you do use it, don't run it around his nose band, just loop it through the ring for the noise when you jerk on the chain. That alone should be enough.
I have a chain lead too, but the chain is small. Think I will try your trick of only putting it thru the ring for noise. Thanks!

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I wouldn't put a chain on him. That's getting stronger and harsher, not smarter. The thing here is to work him on the ground in a way that he comes to respect you as leader. Horses do not try to bite and push around the alpha :) I'd suggest the Parelli 7 Games. I've worked with horses similar to yours using the 7 Games and it's worked wonders.
Show me the way! =] I would love to try on Murray.

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There are a lot of articles explaining the 7 Games, but the best way to learn them (if not directly from an Instructor) is to watch the 7 Games DVD from the Success Series or the Level 1 pack. Check local libraries to see if they have them available, and I think RadHenry's posted some links before......if you are feeling REALLY motivated, then buy the 7 Games DVD from the Success Series and use that. If you want to sell it after awhile, resale value is pretty darn good right now.
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There are a lot of articles explaining the 7 Games, but the best way to learn them (if not directly from an Instructor) is to watch the 7 Games DVD from the Success Series or the Level 1 pack. Check local libraries to see if they have them available, and I think RadHenry's posted some links before......if you are feeling REALLY motivated, then buy the 7 Games DVD from the Success Series and use that. If you want to sell it after awhile, resale value is pretty darn good right now.
Thanks very much!

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