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post #11 of 18 Old 07-28-2011, 11:51 AM
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Ok... but I can't get that close to my horse with a whip.
And yes all I use is a halter.. but I don't really have the money to invest in a cavesson... so I'm not sure what I should do.

Then don't use a whip. I've found that a lunge whip can be too much for certain horses. With my mare I just use a dressage whip that I leave on the ground unless I need it and just kind of flick it.

This link is pretty good for tips: Lunge a Horse - wikiHow

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post #12 of 18 Old 07-28-2011, 12:10 PM
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I *think it can be spelled either way. It could be one of those color and colour things. I could swear that in the book Lessons with Lendon by Lendon Gray it says "lounging" instead of lunging. I could be completely off my rocker though.
Yes, either way is accepted, pronounced the same. Except it is longing-(no you) or lunging
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post #13 of 18 Old 07-28-2011, 12:17 PM
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Elana, out of curiosities sake, why do you have a problem with lunging in a halter?

Is it mainly to do with not having a place to attach side reins?
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post #14 of 18 Old 07-28-2011, 02:40 PM
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Nothing to do with side reins and a halter. Every time you work with a horse you have an opportunity to help the horse learn things.. from how to use his body to proper movement on a circle. Lunging can be a great opportunity to help a horse learn so MUCH.. transistions, tracking up, shifting his weight to the hind quarters, collection, transitions and so forth. A halter is simply not able to give you any sort of clear communication with the animal. It is, IMO, pointless for this training.

BTW I learned this all as part of what I call Horse Training 101 stuff back in the dinosaur age... from a person who was an accomplished Horsemaster from England.

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I'm just curious as to what benefit a lunging cavesson has over a halter in terms of clear communication?

On one, the lunge line clips to a ring on top of the nose, and on a halter, it clips to a ring below the nose.

I'm playing devils advocate here as I do agree with you that lunging can be very beneficial to a horse's training, just not sure exactly why the cavesson is so important.
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You don't need fancy equipment to lunge a horse. Sure if you are working on teaching them about contact and such WITHOUT being on.. but pretty sure everyone is familiar with "free lunging" and that works without anything except you and your horse.. and at times a whip.

Definitely desensitize your horse to a whip. I did that with Sky and now when we are walking along and someone is waving a whip and screaming at their steed.. we remain calm and keep on trucking along.

Also a whip is such a useful tool.. it'd be worth your horse respecting rather than fearing it.


You can also teach a horse about contact with a lunge line.. but I'd go free before you break out the bucks due to safety!
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I *think it can be spelled either way. It could be one of those color and colour things. I could swear that in the book Lessons with Lendon by Lendon Gray it says "lounging" instead of lunging. I could be completely off my rocker though.
I've heard lungeing, lunging, longing, and longeing, but lounging is incorrect.
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Waht are you doing when you lunge a horse? Are you training the horse to be a better riding horse (or even a driving horse) or are you just exercising the horse? If you have a wild animal or are only exercising the horse you do not need a lunge line.. just a round pen.. OTOH if you are trying to build a horse for a discipline, then you need to have a lot more precise communication.

The lunge line goes to the top of a caveson... the top of the nose.. and then you have various locations to attach side reins. The location of the line is a much more direct communication path than on a loose halter UNDER the chin. A lighter touch can be used and you have superior control. You are not interfering with the side reins (as you advance). You are not lifting the horse's head from under neath.. and causing a hollow back.. you can very preciesely guide the horse and do so with little intrference with a cvesson. Under the chin.. or to a side ring on a halter give you nothing.. if you are attaching a line to the horse, use it.

People can choose to use the lunging session for training or not. If all you want to do is drive the horse around and away from you and run 'em out, then do it however you want.

In the case of the OP is sounds like too much horse.. and a horse and hanlder that would benefit GREATLY from some solid ground work. To that end, proper equipmet or a correct set up can help immensely and, hopefully, do no harm.

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