Originally Posted by smrobs
I sure wouldn't buy him cause that could be from a myriad of problems. He could be sore somewhere and it is uncomfortable for him to move, or spurs and crops have been overused and he has become sour from them. If they encourage everyone to ride him with spurs or crop, 99% of people don't know how to use them properly. I am willing to be that instead of using these tools as refined cues, they were using them as standard cues and many people are just too darn harsh with whatever cues they use. There may be a nice horse in there somewhere but it would take a lot of work to get him there.
Yes I started out with no crop and no spurs and then added them after he had no response. I figured the worst would be that he just would continue walking slowly and not move forward. I didn't not expect the head lowering and ear pinning against the neck. I didn't have the opportunity to use my crop or spurs much because as soon as he got in this stance I ended it with a big NO THANKS to my trainer who agreed then I just got off him and that was the end of it. The owner ended up sending him to be a trail horse. He seems better off at that pace. We both agreed that he must have a past that conditioned him to this behaviour and he must also be in pain somewhere plus he doesn't use his front end well for hunters. I am still somewhat of a beginner I think so I want something that suits my level of riding and don't want to use up all of my energy trying to make the horse move forward from a very slow walk. He seemed unhappy taking orders. You all have great advice thank you. I just want more from a first horse.