Lunge systems etc - Page 2
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Training Horses > Horse Training

Lunge systems etc

This is a discussion on Lunge systems etc within the Horse Training forums, part of the Training Horses category

    View Poll Results: Should i use aids?
    None or other (specify please) 8 57.14%
    Pessoa training system 1 7.14%
    Side reins 5 35.71%
    Voters: 14. You may not vote on this poll

    Like Tree4Likes

     
    LinkBack Thread Tools
        03-29-2012, 05:24 PM
      #11
    Yearling
    My girl is very on the fore and I am probably not a good enough rider to help her out with this.

    At the moment she is having to have time of work because her body has been damaged from being neglected by her past trainer so I was just trying to think of gentle ways to bring her back into work.

    As well as ways to develop her muscles.
    Posted via Mobile Device
         
    Sponsored Links
    Advertisement
     
        03-29-2012, 05:54 PM
      #12
    Showing
    I would not use the Pessoa training system; from what I've seen of it, it works less with collection and more with wrestling and balancing against different body parts and ropes. Side reins are helpful, but unless I'm training a horse from the ground something I can't teach from the saddle for whatever reason, I stick with a halter/cavesson and lunge line.
         
        03-29-2012, 09:18 PM
      #13
    Weanling
    Riding your horse in a nice relaxed long and low outline while schooling or out trail riding, long and low schooling over ground poles/cavaletti and riding up hills are all excellent for building up your horses topline.

    Since you say your horse is heavy on the forehand, you will need to help her to learn how to start bringing her weight back onto her hindquarters by half halting, riding her nicely forward up to the bridle. You are kind of "catching" the energy and containing it and not letting it all go out the front end, if that makes any sense at all. Be most concerned with getting a forward energetic walk/trot/canter and then containing the energy by giving small squeezes on the reins as needed, like squeezing water from a sponge. You also get and contain it with your seat/core, it's kind of difficult for me to explain though! Remember leg to hand. Ride the back to the front. Ride forward into a soft light quiet hand. Don't hold the front end up, let her learn how by the correct use of the half halt. I hope that all makes some sense! Just don't expect a lot all at once, it is hard work for them learn how to shift all that weight back when they are used to going around with it all on the front end. It is a long slow process.

    I'm not against the use of side reins and such as long as the person that is using them is experienced and skilled with them and as long as they aren't being overused. It should not replace correct schooling it should complement it.

    Good luck with your girl!
         
        03-29-2012, 09:24 PM
      #14
    Yearling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by HorsesAreMyPassion    
    Riding your horse in a nice relaxed long and low outline while schooling or out trail riding, long and low schooling over ground poles/cavaletti and riding up hills are all excellent for building up your horses topline.

    Since you say your horse is heavy on the forehand, you will need to help her to learn how to start bringing her weight back onto her hindquarters by half halting, riding her nicely forward up to the bridle. You are kind of "catching" the energy and containing it and not letting it all go out the front end, if that makes any sense at all. Be most concerned with getting a forward energetic walk/trot/canter and then containing the energy by giving small squeezes on the reins as needed, like squeezing water from a sponge. You also get and contain it with your seat/core, it's kind of difficult for me to explain though! Remember leg to hand. Ride the back to the front. Ride forward into a soft light quiet hand. Don't hold the front end up, let her learn how by the correct use of the half halt. I hope that all makes some sense! Just don't expect a lot all at once, it is hard work for them learn how to shift all that weight back when they are used to going around with it all on the front end. It is a long slow process.

    I'm not against the use of side reins and such as long as the person that is using them is experienced and skilled with them and as long as they aren't being overused. It should not replace correct schooling it should complement it.

    Good luck with your girl!

    Thankyou, when you say contain her but ride with light hands how much pressure are you talking about?
    Also how would you do a half halt?
    I have heard just ask the same as a halt but before they stop/go down a gait move them on again?
         
        03-29-2012, 10:34 PM
      #15
    Weanling
    I am not the best at explaining things but I'll try my best.

    Think of your regular contact as a following steady light elastic feeling and try to maintain that feeling. You would half halt with just enough resistance to feel a slight shift in your horse's weight from front to back and then go back to your regular following steady elastic contact, it should only last for a few seconds. First of all be sure that you are riding with a straight line from bit to elbow. Remember to not lock your elbows, think of that line from bit to elbow as an elastic that follows your horse's natural movement of his head and neck. You will notice the movement at walk and canter the most and just be aware to follow it maintaining that elastic feeling. At the trot you will not feel any forward and back movement to follow but you need to be aware of keeping your elbows unlocked so that they open and close with your rising and sitting if you are posting it isn't as noticeable if you are sitting. Ok, so if you want to half halt to shift your horse's weight back you will need to resist the forward movement, starting at your elbows don't pull back, just resist for a few seconds and stay elastic, you may have to add a squeeze at the same time for a few seconds. If you get no response try it with a little bit heavier stronger elastic feeling in your elbow and squeeze a bit stonger at the same time. If your horse does not respond bring them down to halt from walk or walk from trot, etc. It is really difficult to say just how much "pressure" you will need as it varies from horse to horse, what level of training they are at, etc.

    Remember, the most important thing is to have your horse moving forwards into the elastic feeling.

    Hopefully this was an ok description and it helps you out a little, if not maybe someone else will have a better description for you.
         
        03-29-2012, 10:38 PM
      #16
    Yearling
    Thankyou!
    That's good :)

    When she is well again I will defenently be trying this.
    We were planning on doing some fun very very low level dressage comps (HRCAV level 4) but I think we will wait a bit until she is working better.
         
        03-29-2012, 10:45 PM
      #17
    Weanling
    I'm glad it made some sense! Have fun with her and good luck at your competitions!
         
        03-29-2012, 10:48 PM
      #18
    Yearling
    Thankyou, I do have fun with her!

    She's amazing, I was discussing this with my coach yesterday and she said that she has never seen a horse that was as mistreated/neglected/abused as her that would still try to do the right thing for me.
         

    Quick Reply
    Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.
    Message:
    Options

    Register Now

    In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

    Already have a Horse Forum account?
    Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

    New to the Horse Forum?
    Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

    User Name:
    Password
    Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
    Password:
    Confirm Password:
    Email Address
    Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
    Email Address:

    Log-in

    Human Verification

    In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


    Old Thread Warning
    This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

    Thread Tools

    Similar Threads
    Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
    The Effects of Racing on The Systems of The Horse ak_showgirl Horse Breeds 1 11-16-2010 03:35 PM
    State Unemployment systems over whelmed RegalCharm General Off Topic Discussion 4 01-07-2009 01:23 PM
    Irrigation Systems shmurmer4 Horse Talk 0 12-29-2008 06:07 PM
    Easy-Change Gullet Systems rocky pony Horse Tack and Equipment 11 07-26-2008 02:28 PM



    All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:53 AM.


    Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
    Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
    Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0