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        03-14-2010, 09:56 PM
      #1
    Foal
    Question Lunging??

    My horse knows how to lunge weve done it many time before but she just wont do it anymore. She might walk a lap then shell just stop and stare at me. And I put my arm out in the direction she's suppost to go I've used the whipp (I don't hitt her no worrys I might touch her with it but I don't HIT HER) I've tryed just about everything but the just WONT LUNGE any help?? And she knows how to do lots of different ground work because I work with her for a between 10 and 20 minutes before each ride or I just do ground work and don't ride (depending on how much time I have or if I feel sick)
         
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        03-14-2010, 10:31 PM
      #2
    Weanling
    Between this post and the other you've posted on personal space, it sounds like your horse does not respect you. There are lots of opinions on how you can go about establishing yourself as a leader to the horse. I would return to basic groundwork, even if the horse appears to be doing it fairly well. Your intent in returning to groundwork will be to establish respect and control. So even if your horse is going through the motions, you have to be able to sense that all of his movements are on your terms. You have to cultivate an assertive, not aggressive manner. Say what you mean, and mean what you say. It's very common for a horse not to move for you if it does not respect you, you can watch this on any given day in the pasture. They move for the horses they respect, and school the ones that they feel should be put into place, usually by making the other horse move their feet. With lungeing, it is quite comical, because if you ask yourself who moves more during a particularly frustrating session, the answer will most likely be yourself.
         
        03-14-2010, 10:38 PM
      #3
    Weanling
    Also, as far as the whip goes, the horse can sense if you are bluffing. He trusts you are not going to hit him with that whip right now. So the whip, in a sense, is your legs in the seat. The line, your reins. It would be like saying while riding, "I'm going to ask for a canter, but i'm not really going to ask for a canter." A swishing, raised whip is both an ask and a warning. A pop of a whip is a both a stronger ask and a warning. A smart, swift well-placed graze against the hocks or bum is the last ask as well as a consequence. Your horse will learn that he'd rather take the first ask if you do, in fact, follow through consistently.
         
        03-15-2010, 02:37 PM
      #4
    Foal
    You need to increase the pressure. Point, cluck, swing the whip, swing it harder & harder, then smack. Do each one at a time, point.. if she doesnt go.. cluck.. if she doesn't go.. swing the whip.. harder.. & harder. If she STILL doesn't go your going to have to get up into HER space & give her a smack on the rump. I know you don't want to hit your horse but sometimes you got to do it. Trust me, she is like 1000 pounds of meat.. its not going to hurt her that much. ;)
         
        03-15-2010, 02:57 PM
      #5
    Yearling
    I used to give warnings and such but once again here's a little version of how that goes. Let's say your mom comes in and see's that your room is a mess. She says "Clean your room." You say "ok", but you havn't yet. She comes in again "Clean your room NOW or you are grounded." You say, "ok, ok, I'm working on it", yet your still not doing it. She finally says "You're grounded." THAN, you do it. What happens is they wait until they finally get the big BOOM before actually doing as you ask. Right away if you ask her the first time and she doesn't do it, smack her. They have very thick skin, it's not going to phase her too much but it will, just enough, to get her moving right then and there.
         
        03-16-2010, 08:30 PM
      #6
    Weanling
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Seahorseys    
    also, as far as the whip goes, the horse can sense if you are bluffing. He trusts you are not going to hit him with that whip right now. So the whip, in a sense, is your legs in the seat. The line, your reins. It would be like saying while riding, "I'm going to ask for a canter, but i'm not really going to ask for a canter." A swishing, raised whip is both an ask and a warning. A pop of a whip is a both a stronger ask and a warning. A smart, swift well-placed graze against the hocks or bum is the last ask as well as a consequence. Your horse will learn that he'd rather take the first ask if you do, in fact, follow through consistently.

    Ditto.

    To add to that.... get big, jump up and down, stomp your feet, growl, get low to the ground while moving towards the horse, crack the whip... etc.

    Walk towards the horse with purpose. Sometimes a poke on the shoulder with the end of the whip helps. As Seahorseys said, sometimes one swift crack to the rump goes a long way.
         

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