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    08-15-2010, 03:02 PM
  #1
Weanling
Lunging!

Hi all,

Well I carried on with short lunging sessions this week with Ricoh and we are having some difficulties.

In hand he walks, trots, halts and backs easily on voice although trotting inhand on the drive he is lazy compared to trotting down a lane say out hacking.

I have no lunge arena,arena or anything so I lunge in one half of a large paddock(not in with another horse).

He will move away and walk around fine and halt fine but he is very lazy. If someone walks around with him fast then he'l walk faster but as soon as they move away he slows. I ask him to 'walk on' with voice, click for trot and it'l be kiss for canter(when we get there...).

My problem is the lazyness when walking. Every other horse iv lunged(inc others iv broke so they arent seasoned horses) will walk and trot with some encouragement and infact most horses iv worked with are forward on a lunge but Ricoh isnt.
When walking inhand(on trails) and playing in field he's very forward so I don't understand why he's so lazy lunging. I wondered if it was because where I work him is right near his field and the other half of the paddock has a horse in so maybe he feels relaxed whereas out on the trails he's more on his toes.

Anyway, im just wondering how to get him to move on a bit and then learn trot? I use a voice command and if no repsonse I hit whip on ground and if still no response I tap him with whip. This works fine for walk(he always walks and halts from voice) but to move his walk up or ask for trot I get no response. I try get him moving forward then I click for trot but there is no response so I tap whip on ground, then crack it then tap him. Nothing. Its so odd because he does it inhand. I tried getting my Mum to run round with him but he only walks very fast and that's only if she holds on to halter. He still wont trot.

Any ideas? Am I doing something wrong? I keep the triangle and iv tried standing more to his quarters to drive him and it doesnt affect him at all.

Thanks
     
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    08-15-2010, 04:27 PM
  #2
Trained
I would move closer to him. Make your circle that you walk bigger, so that he almost thinks he is being led. Then gradually move back to the center.
     
    08-15-2010, 04:54 PM
  #3
Weanling
Iv tried that... As soon as I move back to my circle he slows. Too be honest even when im leading him sometimes he's lazy as in walks slow but as I said never on trails. I don't know whether he's bored. When im doing inhand work I always walk then halt then back then walk etc to keep his interest but he never works overly fast.
I can't really explain what I mean sorry =/
     
    08-15-2010, 09:32 PM
  #4
Trained
I do know what you mean :) If you have already done that then ignore my first post lol. Is there another paddock that you can work him in? Somewhere different that makes him perk up and look around?
     
    08-15-2010, 09:47 PM
  #5
Weanling
Is it possible to upload a video of one of your lunging sessions? That would be so much easier to give pointers and advice.

My horse is super lazy too and she also drags her feet like crazy. I can't really say what I did to make her pick up the pace besides I kept on her like a mad woman and when she did what I wanted, I left her alone, when she slowed, I was back on her. By that I mean click with my voice and cracking the whip. I'd say since you are having such an issue with him keeping the pace, keep him close to you until you can get a consistant response from him.
     
    08-15-2010, 09:50 PM
  #6
Weanling
Also...every horse is different and maybe its a young horse thing since my horse was the same way, it's hard to get them to keep with the pace. I'm still working on Mercedes' (my horse) canter, she HATES doing it and usually refuses to go more than 2 circles. You just have to keep on them and eventually they'll learn that when they do what you want, you'll leave them alone.
     
    08-16-2010, 12:45 AM
  #7
Weanling
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Originally Posted by ilovemydun    
Is it possible to upload a video of one of your lunging sessions? That would be so much easier to give pointers and advice.

My horse is super lazy too and she also drags her feet like crazy. I can't really say what I did to make her pick up the pace besides I kept on her like a mad woman and when she did what I wanted, I left her alone, when she slowed, I was back on her. By that I mean click with my voice and cracking the whip. I'd say since you are having such an issue with him keeping the pace, keep him close to you until you can get a consistant response from him.
Yes, I had to do this with my gelding to keep him at an "8 mile trot"on the longe. The instant I see him slowing, I click or flip the whip. With consistency he is learning that when I ask for a trot, he needs to immedietly go to that speed and stay there. It is all about teaching them how to maintain that pace and to move into it the moment you ask.It could be you just need to really get after your horse to get him to pick up. When he is doing what you ask, relent. Then, the second he slows, even just a small amount, get after him again. Don't wait until he is back at a slow walk again, correct him *before* that happens. I mean REALLY get after him. Crack the whip, twirly it, click, be scary, even jog in place at first to help raise your energy. Energy is key. He needs to listen and quit calling the shots. He also sounds like he is easily bored with the longe stuff, so maybe try mixing it up as well with lots of transitions and direction changes, ground poles, cones, etc..
     
    08-16-2010, 12:51 AM
  #8
Trained
Honestly? I would get up him and not let up until he trots, even if I had to scare the bejeebers out of him.

Growling, waving my arms, stepping aggresively toward his hind end, and actually USING the whip. Make it sting a bit. Make him think the sky is going to fall if he doesn't trot. He needs to react to your commands when asked or he is being set up for a life of ignoring things when he feels like it which can be a very dangerous habit.

As soon as he trots, back off and relax. Even if it is the worlds slowest trot, accept it to begin with as he has given you something. If he drops back to a walk, get up him again.
     
    08-16-2010, 01:09 AM
  #9
Weanling
Ideally, your horse should lunge anywhere.
I have no good spot for lunging, and don't do it really often, but when I do, there are eleventy-seven things going on to distract my horses. . .
The above posters all had good suggestions. Be persistant. Really persisitant. Make it clear to your horse that it isn't really a choice. Be really aware of the effort your horse makes, and reward the good behavior immediately with release of "pressure". Also be very aware of your horse getting ready to slow down or stop, turn toward you, change direction, etc., and drive him forward before he has a chance to do it. Good luck!
Also, if it just isn't "clicking" for you, don't be afraid to have someone help you. Watching a really experienced person (not saying you are not experienced, just that there is ALWAYS someone MORE experienced ;D) work with your horse can often be invaluable.
     
    08-16-2010, 03:59 AM
  #10
Weanling
Thanks everyone :) The thing is I have really got after him and he just isnt bothered by me cracking the whip or using it on him. He's not really scared of much as iv desensitised him a lot =/ So im thinking maybe something random to get him going like a shaker or plastic bag on end of whip.

I havent got anywhere else to lunge him but hopefully horse is getting moved out of one half of paddock to other field so I can place Rico further away from distractions and try again. I have been using a sort of homemade whip just due to not being able to get to a tack shop, so il buy one today and try again.

If I can persuade my boyfriend to watch then il try get a video although I don't know if his camera videos...

One question? Should I be standing on spot and turning so I always form a triangle or moving with him...
If I had an experienced person to help I would as lunging is my weakest point which doesnt help..

Once I have a saddle then im going to get someone to lead me whilst on board and il repeat cues whilst riding a long with lunging in other sessions so hopefully that will help to reinforce what the cues mean?
     

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