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post #1 of 5 Old 10-09-2011, 06:31 PM Thread Starter
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lunging issues

I am having trouble with my 9 year old gelding I have had him now for about 6 months and have had a lot of issues with him some I have corrected and some I have not

since he charged me before while lunging I'm building my confidence up again slowly.I think that scared me more than anything else has before.being shot at is scary but a 1500 pound animal charging full speed wow.

Anyway when I try to get him to walk it don't matter what i do holla crack a whip ect he always turns and faces me what do i need to do to get him to walk?
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post #2 of 5 Old 10-09-2011, 11:58 PM
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You are in front of his drive line and are blocking him by the sounds, my horse did the exact same thing, shorten your line up, hold his head away from you and swing something towards his barrel/hip, when he moves of, drop your 'push' means letting the line your swing fall limp and just walk with him, my gelding who was also 9 charged me and i did this, i crouched down in front of him (not full to the ground, just a bend in the knees) starred him down as he came towards me and cracked a whip in his shoulder, sent him running the other way, it's scary to deal with, but most of the time it is a bluff, just seeing if he can get you to move and assert himself as a dominant horse.

I hope that made sense, all he is doing is getting you infront of him, so he doesn't have to work, get behind him and get up him! Good luck!
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post #3 of 5 Old 10-10-2011, 12:59 AM
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This is a very , very common proglem with lunging. How do you get the horse to move away from you such that you can get access to his driveline.
What's a driveline? This is the position on the horse's body, about where his girth would go, that if you put pressure in front of that point, he will retreat away backward or sideways away from it. IF you put pressure behind this point, he will (or should) react by moving forward, away from the pressure.

So, you want him to go forward, you need to be able to get access to his driveline area and put pressure on BEHIND that point. If he is facingt you, you cannot get access to his side. If you try to walk around to access it, he will just turn and continue to face you while he swings his hind end around and away from you. Continue in this way and He'll be lunging you, around and around. Good workout for YOU!

So, you must make him move his head and shoulders away from you so that his side becomes accessable. To do this, yes shorten the line a little. Like to about 6 feet between you and the horse. Then you start to think about moving his head away from you. Stand with your body and especially feet pointed slightly in the direction you are going to have him walk. now, start to put pressure on his closest nostril. You will begin by tapping the air with your fingers, literally pushing the air toward him. This will eventually be your sole cue. Of course, he will not move. start to backthis up with swinging the whip. or I use the end of the leadline and "propellor" it . Then , keeping my eye and focus on that inside nostril, I walk toward him and put pressure on his cheek and neck with the rope. I may get so close that the propellor with strike his neck. He'll jump and probably step sideways away from me, which will bring his drivelin into view.

In the beginning, I would want only this; a step sideways away from my pressure and so would give a release of pressure and a verbal praise.
After he gets better at this, when he steps over, you pull the leadline a bit forward and change the pressure from his neck area to his barrel area or even hip and say "walk on !" as he goes forward, you also will walk a small circle. You must be very careful not to get in front of his shoulder (driveline). He will stop and face you if you do, and it'll be YOUR fault, not his.

Practice moving his shoulder away from you so you can access his driveline. and then get him to walk on. Whenthis gets good, you can go to a longer and longer line, though I never use more than about 10 feet between me and the horse.
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post #4 of 5 Old 10-10-2011, 06:30 AM
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What I do is similar to tinyliny. I use a cue stick. Hold the rope with the arm of the direction I want them to go. I point with that arm to give them direction. When they don't move, I swing the cue stick in big circles with the other arm, then walk towards them. If I get close enough that I end up smack them, I keep tapping their neck on the side I want them to move away from. They will start backing up or moving sideways. I keep the pressure going until I get a single step forward. Then I put myself in a neutral position. After a few times they pick up they should move forward instead of sideways or back
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post #5 of 5 Old 10-10-2011, 09:46 AM
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Keep in mind that you want the "part" that's facing you or coming toward you to GO AWAY around the circle. That is the head and shoulder. Don't tell the horse to go when he's facing you or you're telling him to run you over. Move the shoulder, which is a power point for horses, and you will probably have to address the head at first to get the shoulder to move.
When a horse comes at you, it's definitely cause for concern and at first you may need to save yourself and move, but as you and horse get better you'll start keeping your feet still and getting horse to stay out. If he drops his shoulder in at any time tap it or toward it and tell him to keep that shoulder out there!
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