Lunging - Wiski is stubborn

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    03-16-2009, 04:49 PM
Lunging - Wiski is stubborn

I've tried to lunge Wiski time and again. The first time went sadly, he went counter clockwise but wouldn't go the other way. He's so lazy he only wants to walk. Any time I try to get him to go clockwise he won't do it.

Maybe I'm doing it wrong. But I'm working on it. I used to lunge my old horse Elle and she would always lunge fine. So maybe it's just Wiski is stubborn as heck.

He doesn't like to stay too far away from me, so it makes it hard to be more than four or five feet from him to start the lunging process.

When I ask him to go, he just walks up to me. (maybe I'm cueing him wrong.. I don't know) If I do get him to go he'll only do two or three circles before stopping and facing me.

I can't get him to do much more than a walk, I did get a trot the first time I tried but it didn't last long.

But he just doesn't seem to know what's being asked of him. So I guess my question is, how do I go about getting him to understand what I want from him and getting the desired results which is for him to lunge when asked, stop when asked, speed up.. etc...

If I have to retrain myself I'm fine with it. I'm going to also see if some of my more experienced friends will give it a go to see if it's just my lack of experience that makes him not understand or if it's just him.

Just to add in, I know that I'm supposed to be facing his barrel with the whip towards the butt and the line at the front. I've tried starting with "walk out" then clicking, then I shake the whip at his butt. (I swear that's what I was taught) After NONE of that works I try whipping the ground behind him... the only thing that does is sometimes make him jump forward a step or two. Whipping the ground just makes him want to come up and investigate... usually he just grabs the rope part of it and chews on it.
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    03-16-2009, 05:17 PM
I had this problem when I first got my gelding. This is what I did and it has worked wonderfully!

I actually didn't start him out on a line. I would put him in the round pen and I would stand in the middle with the whip. If he tried coming up to me, I would push his head away and crack the whip behind him to make him move away. I then started cracking it to make him walk. He was so sacked out and stubborn that I had to actually run with him while cracking the whip to get him to pick up the pace. I would stay just behind his shoulder, while he was on the fence and I was still in the middle. If I wanted him to stop, I would say "WHOA" loudly until he stopped and faced me. Then I would do the same thing, only going the other way. I found that doing this without him being on the line was less restrictive for him, that way he could kind of get the hang of what I was asking him to do. Now he lunges off the line like a champ!

I don't know if it will work for you, but it sure did for me!
    03-16-2009, 05:34 PM
I'll try it, though we don't have a round pen, just a large indoor arena and an outdoor arena that's more like a mudpit right now...
    03-16-2009, 09:14 PM
I would only suggest doing it in a roundpen. You need to be able to control where he goes. Or else that would defeat the whole purpose.

Do you know of anyone who has one that you could use for a little while? I had to go to my neighbor's and use theirs for a couple weeks.

BTW where are you in Oregon?
    03-16-2009, 09:31 PM
I'm actually in the Tillamook area. I can't think of anyone I know with a round pen and as it is I don't even have a trailer LOL so I can't really transport him around. I think with him I gotta start from scratch and get him to respect me. I'm trying to find the best ways to do it though.
    03-16-2009, 10:02 PM
Since he is so calm I think you could do it on a lunge line.
Has he ever been sacked out before? My friends horse was the same. Now he's way better and I'm working on his cantering because he's not comfortable on his left lead.
I suggest teaching him that a bag won't hurt him and rub it on his body, once he's comfortable with that tie it to the end of you're whip and use it to get more of a reaction out of him.
When he tried to move towards you put your hand in his face and step towards him. You're hand should rise towards his eye. If he doesn't move away ask him with the whip and point it towards his shoulder.
By coming into you he knows that he can get out of work, and for just going one way, well since he's on a lunge line you can then control his head, which makes it alot easier.
Remember to use body language, and cues at the same time, and then the whip. After a while you won't have to use body language so much and at such a high energy level because he should start responding to you're cues alot more.
I always give my horse a chance to respond and on the third time if she's not use the whip for encouragement. If you bring more energy to the table they will for you.
I hope this helps!

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