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post #11 of 18 Old 06-20-2007, 02:39 AM
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OK so I see that I am dealing with imaturity here...fine no point chatting with the likes of you QH-Lover09, Troll around the board as much as you like, I am sure it will help your self esteem.


Eventer Gal, I am sorry that your post may turn into a B----fest, I was just giving my opinion and for the record a whiptap is not any form of beating, but no one said you had to take my advice....good luck with your horse, I hope you find a way to get your boy to stop fidgeting.....I'm not interested in playing with Trolls so I will end my replys here. Good Luck.
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post #12 of 18 Old 06-20-2007, 02:43 AM
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Thanks!
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post #13 of 18 Old 06-20-2007, 11:46 PM
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I doubt any of that will help but that is up to her, hopfully she is smart & will go to that website & it will help... GOOD LUCK TO YOU! & beating a horse is not the answer by the way.
You obviously do not understand the reason for a dressage whip.

The dressage whip is meant to be the extension of the hand/arm. Just because you misinterpret its use does not mean others do as well (IE beating a horse).
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post #14 of 18 Old 06-20-2007, 11:51 PM Thread Starter
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Ok did i miss something here? I think both of you are right- but who am i to judge? Punish when he doesn't listen doesn't mean to whip to **** out of him until welts devolp. And i know were Kristy is going with the Drssage whip.... Arghhh so hard i don't want to form sides- oh yeh that site really really helped QH_lover 09!! Kristy i don't know if you read the above message that he has no pain issues. How could he have saddle issues if or when i get my saddle professional fitted from Horse land??
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post #15 of 18 Old 06-21-2007, 12:00 AM
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Ok did i miss something here? I think both of you are right- but who am i to judge? Punish when he doesn't listen doesn't mean to whip to **** out of him until welts devolp. And i know were Kristy is going with the Drssage whip.... Arghhh so hard i don't want to form sides- oh yeh that site really really helped QH_lover 09!! Kristy i don't know if you read the above message that he has no pain issues. How could he have saddle issues if or when i get my saddle professional fitted from Horse land??
haha im REALLY REALLY glad it helped! I knew it would! & no whip would of helped in MY opinion. Id never degrade myself to any whip in this sertin case. There is better & more gentle ways of handling these type of situations.
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post #16 of 18 Old 06-21-2007, 12:04 AM
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[quote="Eventer Gal"]Ok did i miss something here? I think both of you are right- but who am i to judge? Punish when he doesn't listen doesn't mean to whip to **** out of him until welts devolp. And i know were Kristy is going with the Drssage whip.... Arghhh so hard i don't want to form sides- oh yeh that site really really helped QH_lover 09!! Kristy i don't know if you read the above message that he has no pain issues. How could he have saddle issues if or when i get my saddle professional fitted from Horse land??[/quote]

Sorry, did I miss this? Not important. A lot of people believe their saddle fits when in reality, it doesn't. If you have a professional saddle fitter, then that's wonderful. Having a properly fitting saddle is so rediculously important and often over looked. You wouldn't believe the amount of horses that have ill fitting saddles! :(
Anyway, I'm happy to hear it isn't a pain issue. Personally, if I were in your shoes, I would get a saddle that I wouldn't mind being tossed to the ground if it were to fall off the horse's back. I would place the saddle on the horses back as usual. If the horse began to squirm, I would send him around me as if lunging 2-4 times. I would want the horse to associate squirming with having to work. Any time the horse squirmed, I'd lunge (2-4 times). The saddle may slide off the horses back when going around. If possible, lightly girth the horse so the saddle doesn't fall. Repeat this until the horse realizes that standing equates to relaxation.
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post #17 of 18 Old 06-21-2007, 12:50 AM
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Also even though some people disagree, hobbling him might help alot. It is good to enforce this if the horse move around alot or wont stay still; like in your situation. But don’t do this where you tie him up, do this in a SAFE place such as an indoor arena or better yet, a round pen! There is ALOT of different hobbles & even though I disagree with alot of this video... the video Colt Starting Magic by Larry Trocha is REALLY good on the part where he talks about hobble training. It explains why hobbles are used & when & only when hobbles should be used in training! Its really great & not really that expensive at all to purchase! Ive been to afew of his clinics, that didn't overly impress me but he is good at what he does when it involves hobbling! You should check it out, it might help your horse's fidgeting!
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post #18 of 18 Old 06-21-2007, 04:53 PM
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OH MY GOD! Hobbles....coming from someone who doesn't understand the concept of the whip tap technique which is not beating the horse but I realise now that that was way too techniqual!
More fool you for using hobbles if you choose to as I also know for a fact that more things can go wrong with hobbles than with the whip tap especially in inexperienced hands! Gee from someone who has gone out of there way to disprove others without researching clearly her facts and by the way thats coming from twice as many years experience! oh and a third more years in age....very foolish to take for granted that everyone here is 13 and that everyone will play lacky to someone who is intent on rubbing others up the wrong way and for what I ask? Self Gratification? I do wonder...........lol from the devil girl....
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