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post #11 of 16 Old 11-21-2008, 11:31 PM
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just as a side note with take pictures for saddle fit.
you DO want the saddle girthed up, but not tight as if you were going to ride. Just secure enough to keep the saddle on.

When you ask her to canter online, do you do it with her saddle on?
Does the bit have a single joint?
It may be that she doesn't like the nutcracker action (seen in single jointed bits)
My mare used to contanstly flip her head, until I got her a bit that was double jointed. It stopped it instantly.
So that's something else to look into.
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post #12 of 16 Old 11-22-2008, 10:36 AM
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I, too, would be suspicious of the saddle fit. I would find a person who is very knowledgable about saddle fit come and look at it. It's hard to explain over the Internet.

The fact that she doesn't act up while on the lunge line is very interesting. So it has to do with the tack and/or you. Although she might be in pain somewhere and the tack/you irritate it.....okay that sounded like an attack on you but I swear it's not! You know what I'm saying right?

I would think about switching bits if the bit you are using now is a single jointed one. Maybe try a snaffle with a link in the middle, that will be much more comfortable.
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post #13 of 16 Old 11-22-2008, 02:53 PM
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I would switch out of an eggbutt and into a loose ring...if that doesn't work, then maybe try a kimberwick. Maybe she just doesn't have a lot of muscle and just can't physically collect with you on her. My gelding I have now was really out of shape, and when I used to canter him it was a hard hand gallop and almost impossible to collect. The head tossing is probably her way of protesting..I would think if it were saddle fit she would exhibit more head bobbing rather than bit evasion. Check her sweat marks when you get off of her and she if it is even throughout the sides and back. That will be a good indication if it is saddle fit that is causing the problem.
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post #14 of 16 Old 11-25-2008, 09:46 PM
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1. Check saddle fit... get an extra pad or riser if need be. Try adding another fitted show pad for more comfort to see if this helps at all.. If it does in the slightest bit, you have a fit problems.

2. Get off her back and try a 2 point position. With out giving her more rein, move your hands up her neck a little so that you aren't getting her in the mouth.

3. She tosses her head or goes faster than what you want, do a circle both in the trot and/or canter. Lots and Lots of circles....
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post #15 of 16 Old 11-26-2008, 07:01 AM
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Wintecs are very comfortable for the rider but are notorius for causing back soreness if they are worn out. have someone look at it and make sure it isnt piching or rubbing her.

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post #16 of 16 Old 11-26-2008, 07:02 AM
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Personally I don't think it is saddle fit. The saddle may not fit but I don't think that is causing her to want to rush the canter.

If it were saddle fit, you would see it in the trot which is a much more strenuous gait. She should pin her ears and act up if the saddle is hurting her.

I think it is more a training issue. I would work her slowly doing a lot of transitions and half halts. I'm also a believer in a running martingale for certain situations and use one from time to time as I think I need to. It may work here as well but I also believe that you need to have very fast, light hands for it to be effective and humane otherwise it can be a painful device. I don't recommend it for everyone and as Sonny suggested it can mask the problem but I believe only if you are misinterpreting it.

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