First off there is no need to be rude.
Rude? I don't see how any of what I said was rude, except the mouth tie comment. Which, IMO, if you are forceably just trying to hold your horse's mouth shut with a device, you are simply ignoring what may truly be the problem.
You came on here asking for help, and I'm trying to help. Take it or leave it. I think it may be wise for you to read the excellent post MH just posted yesterday: Accepting criticism, ideas and the reality that your way is not the only way.
mouth tie is'nt mean she can still open her mouth half way, just wanted to try it because I see a lot of people try it and her previous trainers told me to try it.
Doesn't matter because the core idea is that you are using a tool to mask the problem (forcably holding her mouth closed) instead of figuring out WHY she is having a bit issue in the first place and WHY she is wanting to open her mouth.
And of course I don't let it hit her teeth!
Whoa, calm down. I ask that of everyone whenever there is a bit issue because you wouldn't believe how many people don't realize they are doing it by accident. I don't know what you are doing with your horse unless I ask. Don't get defensive.
I have tought her to put her head down but now she just won't do it. Her ground manners are good.
To me, these two sentences contradict each other. If her ground manners are indeed good, she should do everything willingly, including dropping her head (provided there is not a pain issue when checked by the chiro
and the dentist
and the vet
How do you ask her to put her head down and what does she do in response?
No I'm not an equine dentist or a "bit" expert, but I'm not ignorant, I do know some things about this stuff. She has had her teeth done before but I just think its time to do it again.
My point was: But you are not a vet, and not specialized in training for equine dentistry. In your OP you had said "And I don't think it's her teeth because I looked in her mouth, no sores or anything, we are going to get her teeth rasped, but they aren't bad enought to cause any problems."
and I am saying that you can't know if they are bad enough to cause problems unless you sedated her and searched the inside of her mouth, and unless you are an equine dentist.
I wouldn't look inside my husband's mouth and determine if he has a dental issue. I'm not a dentist.
I know all about cues, and pressure and all that. So not to sound rude but, it's not me, I have had trainers watch me ride her and they said it wasn't me. So thanks but I don't think that's it.
Well we don't know that. We've never seen you or never talked to you on these boards. So it's not to be rude when I ask or when I explain things, but simply to ask and find out. Again, it's surprising how many people don't know, and don't know that they don't know.
I think it is best to wait until the dentist looks at her to determine if there is any underlynig problems, before we progress further.