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post #1 of 23 Old 05-04-2010, 09:08 PM Thread Starter
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Mare days....

How do you train your mares to work through their "mare days" and suck it up?
Lacey just started coming back into heat again after the winter and my, is she sassy! She's currently in the middle of her second heat of the season and I am just having a hard time deal with it. Last summer she was good all summer through her heats, but right now she's acting more like she did two summers ago when I first got her: all pushy, and rushy on the ground and "fast fast fast" undersaddle. I've been trying to go back to basics with her like I did two summers ago: when she starts pulling on the lead, I stop and have her back up, then repeat each time she starts pulling; undersaddle we've been doing a whole lot of walking. She starts booking it at the trot and I don't feel comfortable cantering her with the way the ground is at the barn and the way her balance is. I would just trot her to get it out but the girl can trot! If I sit it, I'm bouncing all over the place and that hurts after a while, and if I post, she starts trotting as fast as she can, and faster.

Over the winter she was just starting to consistently relax while being ridden and now, not so much. I just want my relaxed girl back! Seriously, she's 25, she should be finishing up the whole "wish to reproduce" deal right? Goodness.

I guess it's probably just the curse of a fit, happy, mare that knows her owner well.
Also, we've been going on long trail rides about every two weeks for the last 3 months, and that's her favorite thing ever. So, this behavior might have something to do with her wanting to go on a big ride and being POed that we're just hanging out at home, but that's still not a good enough excuse.
I probably have it under control, I mean, it's not like she's being dangerous or anything, she's just ready for anything and excited about whatever might happen.
But if anyone has any tips, I would distinctly love to hear them.

I'm actually considering getting some of that Mare Magic stuff, I don't even know.

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post #2 of 23 Old 05-04-2010, 09:21 PM
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How do you train your mares to work through their "mare days" and suck it up?
I just ignore it. Just keep doing what I'm always doing - that's it.
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I don't accept any unwanted behavior regardless of what the horses uterus is doing. If it really bothers you have her spaid.

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My 18 yr old TB mare is the exact same way! Well, I don't ride her much anymore but when we were in competition mode, I could not have her have "bad days" because sometimes they happened to be on show days!

I talked to my vet and we put her on an IM hormone injection. Very cost effective and super easy to give if your horse is good with needles. I did them myself every month. Cured her PMS straight away.

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Funnily enough, in all the mares I've owned and been around, we've never had problems. Our entire crew doesn't even show they're in heat except for Shay-las 19 year old mare Cinder who transforms from a demon to the most loveable horse alive when she's in heat, and my Arab mare who's only issue is that you CANNOT handle her back legs when she's in heat. Simply cannot. If you actually manage to get a back leg up, she'll just fall on you from squatting and peeing.

If you're having a serious issue with her, definately try Mare Magic but I agree with everyone else - just work through it. You know it's only going to last for a little while, it's not a permanent training issue, so I wouldn't bother coddling her. She knows how to lead, end of story - so smarten up and get the HECK out of my space!

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It's just that during the summer she's basically in heat 24/7, always peeing all over the place around geldings, being a complete jerk, etc. So, I guess, I'm just worried that this is setting the tone for the entire summer, yknow?

Maybe I'm just having a hard time with it right now because I've been feeling really weirdly under the weather myself the last few days so I'm having a harder time handling her. I've never found it to be this much of a problem before so maybe that's it... I hope that's what it is.
I mean, she's coming with me to camp for the entire summer in about 5 weeks where she'll be around little kids who aren't at all horse smart practically all the time and I NEED her to be safe. I just can't have her getting way up in people's space and being an idiot with kids around. Maybe I'm just getting nervous about how she's being right now + camp and over thinking it too much. I hope that's what it is.

When I go out to see her on Thursday I will try to ignore it and act like she's not being weird at all. Maybe that'll help. It's probably all me and my mind. She's such a different horse, mentally, in the summer than she is in the winter so probably once I readjust to "summer Lacey" we'll be fine. Hopefully.

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Yep, have them spayed. Just did my mare in November, the neighbors mares around me are squealing and being silly, and my girl just acts like a gelding.
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Wallaby, you can use products like Mare Magic (Mare Magic Mare Magic (Equine - Horse Supplements - Calming Agents) some people swear it works, I never seen it) or Moody Mare (Moody Mare Wendals Herbs (Equine - Horse Supplements - Calming Agents) that's on expensive side, but I've seen it's working indeed). Personally I wouldn't go with hormones - it's not healthy, and when I talked to my vet about it last year he strongly recommended NOT to use it (although I believe SOME mares have such strong disbalance that then may need it).
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I have used hormones with absolute success. no side effects or anything. My vet did not seem to be concerned about having her on them for three years so...

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Mare Magic. Way cheaper than spaying. In fact, if there are wild raspberrries where you live and you don't mind doing a little work, you can get it for free.

Of course you have to let her know that the rules are the same no matter how she's feeling, but Mare Magic does seem to help with the attitude. No guarantee it will work for your girl, but it's harmless and worth a try.
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