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    08-26-2012, 04:10 AM
Red face "Mare" is a four letter word.

Ok, Ok. I realize that there are many excellent horses out there that just happen to be mares. I also realize that geldings are likely to be a little screwy as well. I have had some great horses and they were mares, but I've recently found reason to concede that I have not the time or patience to deal with the wishy-washiness that comes with owning a mare. I may be a bit biased due to recent events that involved my AQHA mare.

She was well bred enough. Out of "Impressive" bloodlines and (-/-) HYPP. Honestly, there was nothing wrong with this mare that plenty of long rides and some patience wouldn't fix. She just had that attitude that kept me knowing we weren't on the same team. It was like she was constantly waiting for an opportunity to give me grief. She was sold to a friend of mine and he has yet to report any distaste for her attitude. Maybe it was just me. Lol. I guess I will try again if the right horse comes along now that I think about it.
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    08-26-2012, 05:11 AM
A mare is a mare - you love them or leave them.

You have fallen into the trap of impatience. You obviously have acquired a mare with spirit and one which knows right from wrong and what she wants out of life. She is not going to give in and she is going to make her presence felt.

Well it is up to you. You are going to have to be a little circumspect as to how you deal with her. You'll have to learn some understanding. You'll have to be firm but not intolerant.

Throw that whip away. Stop shouting and use your hands to soothe.

And stop moaning. She'll know she has you on the run. She hasn't yet decided if you are worthy of her. You'll know when she makes that decision.

Start again. Go buy her a box of horse treats and see if she likes juicy pears.
Be nice to her and whisper sweet nothings in her ear.

You've obviously not be married for long.
    08-26-2012, 06:15 AM
Sound advice. I don't actually have her anymore. She "was" a good horse, and I don't doubt that some additional time and patience would've benefited her. I must admit, I don't think she was the same misunderstood soul your guessing she was. Events had much to do with my schedule. I have been spending quite a bit of time going back to school for my animal science (equine science minor) degree. I have spent some thirty years off and on working with horses and I've always been the one to see the diamond waiting to shine. It is something I take pride in.

Contrary to how I must have portrayed myself, I am often complimented for my patience.

This mare would have been a great horse for someone. I suppose I was referring more to the deep connection that I have become accustomed to acquiring in past horses I've been exclusive to. It's true, had I had the time she actually needed, I may have harbored a much fonder recollection. Poor Katie just came along at an inopportune time. Like I Said, I expect I'll give it another shot after I graduate.

Thanks for the response and the advice. I'll definitely keep it in mind. I'm of the opinion that you never know everything about horses, and just when you get to thinkin' ya got it figured out, one will throw you a curve ball. A fella ought to try to take the good lessons from everyone he can, and shuck the bad after contemplation.

Have a great day.
    08-26-2012, 08:29 AM
Green Broke
I don't understand the prejudices about mares that some have. I've had so many and been around countless others. They ran together with geldings and other mares. They have been and are fine.

But, regardless of gender, if one doesn't like a horse I can understand not keeping it.
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    08-26-2012, 08:45 AM
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Her worst problem (and probably yours as well) is that she was 'Impressive' breeding.

I really do not want to open a big can of worms here, but I have to be honest with my opinion here.

Our experience and that of many other trainers is that they do not train and ride very well under saddle. They have been bred to be halter horses. Many have very straight hind legs set too far under them, have high hocks and have very long and very upright pasterns. These conformation characteristics along with an uncooperative mind make many of them very poor riding prospects.

A lot of 'Impressives' wake up in a new world every morning. Many simple things you thought you had ironed out just keep reappearing like it is a new task.

Those that do get along fairly well with early training will reach a certain point, usually where you start putting more pressure on them and asking for more, and they just come apart completely and you have to start over.

I know there are a few of them, usually quite a ways removed from Impressive himself, that have made pleasure and hunt seat horses, but they are few and far between. Stock Horse, Cowhorse, Cutting horse, etc trainers will not even take them.

Personally, I do not want one of them on the place.

On the other hand, I have no prejudices about mares, except for the very few that have actual physical problems. They will frequently give you a lot more 'try' than a gelding. The ones that act 'marish' are usually just bad mannered because someone has let them act that way. They can be taught good manners like any gelding. We pony off of them, haul them along-side geldings in a stock trailer use them for inexperienced riders on trail rides and find them very trainable IF they are bred to be trainable.
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    08-26-2012, 09:05 AM
I have an Impressive bred horse and he is kind, steady and reliable. I had a mare for 18 years and she too was kind, steady and reliable, even after a bad beginning. It has more to do with how we treat our horses and not petting and soothing inappropriate behavior. Women are inclined to treat horses like a toddler and this is often why things don't work out.
    08-26-2012, 09:09 AM
I hope not, Saddlebag. I wouldn't know what to do with a toddler. Probably treat it like a horse! "You can run around in circles until you quit whining."
    08-26-2012, 09:09 AM
I must be in the minority. I have/had four Impressive bred. Three intentional purchases and the rescue that I didn't see her papers until after we brought her home. One is double Impressive bred. All have made excellent trail horses, are quiet, easy going and great movers. Don't need any reminding either. One has been shown extensively and done really well in other disciplines both English and western. Two of the remaining three are hopefully going to have their horizons expanded soon. The third my brother has purchased for my niece and is going to be showing. I bought the horses based on their confirmation, overall attitude, personality and what their parents had accomplished not because they were Impressive. They just happened to be.
    08-26-2012, 09:34 AM
Green Broke
Rangeroam, your post could have been written about a human Katie. Keep looking & the right one will come along but often you will have to put up with a few nags until then.
    08-26-2012, 09:55 AM
Green Broke
Like Cherie my first thought was that her being a mare was not the problem.

I have also had/rode some Impressive horses. The first one I encountered I bought when I was just starting high school and wanted a barrel prospect. I bought him because he was extremely athletic and fast but being young didn't think about the brain attached.
He was very volatile. Pressure=explosion. Never made a barrel horse which I quickly gave up on. Had no cow. The only thing he was good at was good at was pounding rocks on a big circle and bucking.

The ones I rode for other people after that were close to the same.

I know some have had good luck with them. I talked to a gal a couple of weeks ago with a stud with those lines that is successful in heading, heeling and stock horse classes.

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