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post #1 of 17 Old 09-07-2008, 08:35 PM Thread Starter
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Mare trows head up...

When I ride my mare. And I try to get her to trot, lope, or gallop , she trows head head up like like she's trying to refuse but she is really lazy..

SO would a martigale work ?
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post #2 of 17 Old 09-07-2008, 08:59 PM
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Is her head up the whole time she's trotting, loping or galloping or does she just throw it up when you ask her to go faster?

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horses normally throw their head up if something is bothering them. I'd check her over for any type of pain. Sadde pain, joint pain, side pain, teeth pain....eliminate that, then I'd move on to her just being a brat.

IMO a Martingale will NOT work and don't feel they do any good what so ever.

What bit are you using? How tight are you keeping your reins? How are you asking (lightly squeezing...or kicking...or something else?)?
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post #4 of 17 Old 09-09-2008, 05:54 PM Thread Starter
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Sorry, I forgot I made this post... lol

When I ask her to trot,(verbal cue and leg cue) she toss's her head to the side also when I lope...

I have looked her over and checked for heat and can't find anything phically wrong with her.. She is really face sensetive so we use a hackamore, but I think were swiching her over to a light bit ..

So I assume she is doing this out of being lazy. I already do alot of gound work with her..And sometimes I have to use a crop just to get her to lope or trot...

So how can I make her not lazy ?
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I normally give her a light sqeeze because she hate it when I put alot of steady pressure on her... But I sometimes have to kick her alittle just to get her to go...
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My mare I was training a couple years ago did that when she was green. My opinion was that she was picking up her head when she picked up her shoulder, and we trained her out of it. Also, I think martingales are wonderful when used correctly to give them a better idea of where you want their head to go,(down). JMO though, everyone has different ideas.

It could be that, or she could just be aggravated that your asking her for a faster gait. Who knows I'd have to watch her to really see what she was doing, lol. Hope that helps a bit!
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Well she is green , ill see if my mom can get a vid of me riding her today or tommarow..

Thanks yall for the info though
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I don't think a martingale or tie-down would work...yes it keeps the head down, but it can harm the horse, and give them a bad impression about you, about you riding her, about accepting the bit/bridle.

I've never really known a horse to toss his head simply because "he was lazy". Not comfortable with something something, yes....in pain, yes, but not because they are lazy.

Try just giving voice commands. Make sure you bring up YOUR energy when you ask for the trot. If you feel dead on her back, it won't "encourage" her to move forward. Try to move WITH the horse.
My horse is trained that the minute my body stops moving with him, he is top stop...your horse may be green but who knows...maybe she's thinks that way also.
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My older mare is lazy and when she doesnt engage her backend she will raise her head and bop it up and down because she is using her front end. To teach her out of this I used a snaffle and draw reins. I would hold her head and drive her forward... she caught on really quick and would drive with her backend. This stoped her head lifting stuff.

I have no problems with training aids (crops, spurs, draw reins, martingales, etc) they just have to be used properly and at the right times. My horse isnt afraid of taking the bit because I used these items nor is she afraid of me riding her.


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Neither was mine. You just need to be sure you're using the equipment on her correctly (not too short, etc) and be aware of the fact that she is not used to it, so go slow and easy. All a martingale does is direct the pull down, so they more easily understand the cue. OMG, I would give anything to use draw reins again. They are WONDERFUL!!! I didn't have a pair and used my trainers, so I guess I need to go get some, lol. They worked wonders with this gelding we were working on. He was slow as can be, but wouldn't put his head down, lol.
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