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post #11 of 42 Old 02-02-2012, 06:35 PM
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If you're training and riding your horse correctly then you don't need a martingale standing or running because you taught your horse to flex at the poll and respond to the bit.

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post #12 of 42 Old 02-02-2012, 06:38 PM Thread Starter
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I've heard that jumping with them is bad, and I've heard that you're supposed to. I wouldn't jump with one though, unless there's no chance of injury to the horse.
How do you teach a horse to collect itself, the correct way. I've used sidereins and that seemed to work, but my horse felt like she was a little confused and uncomfortable. With the double reins she was saying collected longer and with less direction from me. Am I doing this right? Hahaha

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You need to be working with a qualified trainer on this :\

Don't ever jump with a standing martingale, but it's fine with a running martingale.
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post #14 of 42 Old 02-02-2012, 06:40 PM
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No, a martingale is not a training tool. It is a corrective tool. It should never even impact the horse unless the horse's head is dangerously high. It should never be adjusted to, in any way, hold the horse's head down.

If they are adjusted the way I see many in the hunter ring, they will be too short. And, they may learn to lean against it. It is RARE to see a standing martingale adjusted correctly, these days.

The real question is what discipline are you wanting to ride? Running martingales are not acceptable in hunters....standings are not acceptable in jumpers and illegal in eventing.

Any way you look at it, good training should make it less likely for a horse to throw their head up so high a martingale is needed. If you want a breastplate, no attachment is a good option there.
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I ride english, and I'm not showing(on my horse) we're still working on trailer training.

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No, a martingale is not a training tool. It is a corrective tool. It should never even impact the horse unless the horse's head is dangerously high. It should never be adjusted to, in any way, hold the horse's head down.

If they are adjusted the way I see many in the hunter ring, they will be too short. And, they may learn to lean against it. It is RARE to see a standing martingale adjusted correctly, these days.

The real question is what discipline are you wanting to ride? Running martingales are not acceptable in hunters....standings are not acceptable in jumpers and illegal in eventing.

Any way you look at it, good training should make it less likely for a horse to throw their head up so high a martingale is needed. If you want a breastplate, no attachment is a good option there.
Thank you. We needed your almighty expertise, Miss Finch. *bows down* I simply cannot find the words. xP But that is what I was trying to say.

Again, thank you. xD

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So basically, since my horse never has a high head unless she's frightened, I don't even need a martingale, right?

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Most likely... not.

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Awesome(:
What's the best way to teach your horse to collect?

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There have been truckloads of books written about that very subject. If it were me I'd find a GOOD dressage trainer and learn everything I could.
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