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    01-23-2010, 04:52 AM
Green Broke
Question me vs my

I am a beginner with horses and I am an owner of a 7 year old mare.
Today we were going to go on a nice ride(absolutely beautiful out) with my mom. Since my mom just got off work and was going to change into some clothes I decided I would pony my mom's horse over.

My fiance opened the gate and I went to go get Gracie from the pasture. We were doing fine but once I asked her to go she would refuse and back up and I would turn her in circles and try it again. She was getting mad because I was trying to make her go. She was about to buck my fiance and mom said so we kept on trying because I didn't want her to think she could get away with it. I stayed on her while my fiance led her through the mud and then he unlatched her and I went on my way to get Gracie and was fine. After we were done riding I went to go try again and she she was putting up a fight and I would tell her to "woah" and she wouldn't listen very well.

I know she didn't want to go because it's muddy and hard to walk through. I am going to toss some straw out there so it can thicken up the mud.

I don't know what I can do to make her go. I want her to listen to me. The ONLY time I am willing to do what she wants to is when we are riding on the road and stops for some reason and turns back. I trust her knowing she might sense something because my mom's horse does the same thing so we figure it wouldn't be wise.

If anyone has any ideas let me know. My fiance thought maybe some spurs but she was spurred before in the past and she would always pin her ears back when ridden because of it but now she is picking her ears up.

Would a crop work?
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    01-23-2010, 05:29 AM
Last thing you should do is start to get heavy handed, it could make matters much worse.

There is a possibility that your mare is not mis-behaving deliberately, many horses are unfortunately ' trained ' to avoid mud by having been led around it by previous owners who themselves did not want to get their boots muddy.

If you can , and you have the space , make a muddy patch that is not too wide but very long , about 4 - 5 metres long by 1/2 metre wide , start by not having the mud too deep .
With your horse on a long lead you should be able to lead your horse
upto the middle of it, cross the mud yourself and when she starts to mess about , relax everything but try to not let her back up too much. She should drop her head to inspect what you are asking her to cross , when she does ask her forward ( don't pull her as this will elevate her head ) , drop some food or treats on your side of the mud , she will at some point make up her mind to cross the mud herself .

If you do this on a regular basis she will eventually not be bothered about mud at all. But if you force her to cross there will always be an element of fear where mud is concerned. Giver her a reward for crossing, she will then learn that crossing mud is a good experience, not a bad one.
    01-23-2010, 05:33 AM
Oh by the way

DON'T stand in front of her as to begin with she may rush or jump over the mud and I wouldn't want her landing ontop of you.
    01-23-2010, 02:36 PM
Green Broke
:) Thank you

I praised her yesterday for eventually going through the mud.
When I lead her through the mud she has no problem and when I ride and ask her to go in the mud she is hesitant but she eventually goes so I was confused why she wouldnt yesterday. Maybe because it was really muddy? This was the first time she did this.There was a little bit of water in the mud where you could see her hoof prints and I know she doesn't like to walk over water sometimes.

I don't think she is a bad horse. I love her very much. Sometimes people think I am not hard on her enough. I do not hit my horse to an extreme. I sometimes give her a little kick or a small hit and she stops what she is doing automatically. I was told to do this when she does that. I think she was trained that way. I feel bad doing it but that's the only way I know how to make she stop when I have her tied up when I am grooming her.

I don't want to sound like I'm abusive because I pamper her and I have with all of my horses.

Some gal hit one of my horses right in the face with a lunge whip because she wasn't doing things right. She said she was going to teach me how to make a horse listen and asked if I minded( I had no clue what she was going to do). And she did that to my horse :(
    01-23-2010, 10:06 PM
Originally Posted by Gidget    
I don't know what I can do to make her go. I want her to listen to me. The ONLY time I am willing to do what she wants to is when we are riding on the road and stops for some reason and turns back. I trust her knowing she might sense something because my mom's horse does the same thing so we figure it wouldn't be wise.

I wouldn't let her turn around to go home because she wants to. Not trying to be rude but in this case you ARE letting her do what she wants. She will figure out "oh, mom doesn't care if we turn around right here. Lets go home!"
    01-23-2010, 10:15 PM
Green Broke
Yea, I suppose you are right. I just figured it was something bad in that area because my mom's horse would react to it the same way.

Today I was able to get her to go back to her pasture a little easier.
I will keep working with her.
    01-23-2010, 10:33 PM
Good Luck :)
    01-23-2010, 10:56 PM
You are far smarter than your horse so if you don't see anything dangerous then there probably isn't anything to worry about. There are a few exceptions but not many.
    01-23-2010, 11:08 PM
Mine used to try to do the "turn around and go home" thing. I would just turn her in circles and go right back the way I wanted. If I'd let her get away with it, we'd never get anywhere. She was just being lazy and didn't want to leave her herd or do any work. Once she figured out that the circles I turned her in were more work than just going the way I wanted to begin with, she knocked it off.
    01-23-2010, 11:50 PM
Could be she doesn't feel secure with you on her back when she goes through the mud...the extra weight could make her feel she's sinking deeper than she's used to...? I'm new to horses, too, and have played the "Nope, not doing it, going home" trick many many times! Usually, Sunny is just being a b*tt head, and stubborn. But being firm has worked...mostly! The one time he really refused, and I used more than firm force, I ended up on my back in a feild, with horse no where to be found. So firm, but not HARD seems the way to go. And repeat repeat repeat. On both sides. (left brain/right brain)
Spurs sounded good to me too. I tried them, once. Never again. The reaction was swift and not good. (Sunny is a rescue, and I have no idea what the owners did to him, but patience gets great results...force, not so much!)
I do have a crop, but have yet to use it.

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