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post #1 of 46 Old 01-16-2013, 10:16 PM Thread Starter
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Mexican-style training?

If the term 'Mexican -style training' is offensive or incorrect, please correct me and I apologize. I am new to the southern California area and literally a hill away from Mexico. There are several ranches around the one I board at that have spanish cowboys that ride on the wildlife preserve that I ride on. I am just wondering what the technique is they use? While I am riding and trying to keep my horse relaxed, neck stretched and low and just trying to love my calm ride....they whiz by galloping. They have tie downs on their horses, the horses heads are high in the air, mouths open, whites of the eyes showing....they look frantic to me really....and the rider just keeps pushing and pushing. Am I crazy? Is this a technique for breaking horses or just bad riding?
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That's bad horsemanship all together... Not a technique but a primitive, uneducated way of breaking horses. I train horses in the old California Vaquero way mixed with a little bit of the Great Basin Buckaroo methods and people like that infuriate me. They give my wy of training a very very bad name. It isn't a method just poor riding and poor horsemanship by uneducated people stuck in their primitive ways..
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Well, im equally crazy, if you're crazy lol. I see them parading their horses up and down the road. Usually very flashy horses, palominos or greys preferred.
Im convinced that there is a culture of training these horses, unfortunately I have only seen people who must have forgotten or never exactly knew how to do it.
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It's nothing to do with Mexican's or any other ethnicity. I great many races of people use short cuts to tie down the horses head without training. It's just poor horsemanship.
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Brown Horse is a mexican mustang. He used to be a dancer in the parades, wearing heavy outfits and stuff, I think. But the style they used seemed really harsh, as brown horse has white spots in different places on his body. His nose, his withers, and girth area. I speculate a chain was used for his nose, and an ill fitting saddle/ girth.

I can't say I know of any other experiences that are positive, as everything I have heard has been negative.
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I asked a woman that I went out on a trail ride with the other day while we were riding and I was trying to keep my horse 'sane' as they yehawed by. She said that that is their method of training and they even get their horses hyped up before they ride them. I'm not sure I understand this. It seems to be very common down here. I don't understand the tie down thing either if the horses' heads are sky high and they are all high strung and seem to be just plainly...freaking out the horses.
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If done incorrectly, any riding style can be cruel and harsh. I have a really good friend who uses this method correctly and his horses are a dream. I had to learn a few words in Spanish to work with them, but I love his horses. He is never mean with horses and his horses will do anything for him. He's taking my mare for training soon and I can't wait to start working with her. It isn't mean and harsh when done correctly.
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If done incorrectly, any riding style can be cruel and harsh. I have a really good friend who uses this method correctly and his horses are a dream. I had to learn a few words in Spanish to work with them, but I love his horses. He is never mean with horses and his horses will do anything for him. He's taking my mare for training soon and I can't wait to start working with her. It isn't mean and harsh when done correctly.
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How/what is the horse taught by riding them like that? Just hauling a** while they are all freaked out? I'm just asking because I would like to understand this better....it doesn't seem logical to me. I also thought you shouldn't ride with their heads to the sky and mouths gaping open because it hollows out their backs????
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^^^That's what I mean by incorrectly. His horses are always head low and relaxed and not spooky. If done correctly and in the right riders hands these horses are amazingly well trained.
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The people around here are not mean in sense of beating their horses into submission or such. Some actually love their horses, and all are mighty proud of them. I just don't see no training. I see horses tied high, no chance to relax the neck, head never lower or as low as the withers, a sisal( I think, some kind if rope) very tight noseband is used to tie them out, reins attached and tied behind the horn, to create the headset. No way to get away from pressure. Next is a bit, long shanks, again horse tied out in the same manner, shanks are horizontal. For hours, under the sun, no relief at all, while the men party. Then they ride. Same head position, any saddle, fitting or not, as long as it's flashy.
Luckily I never whitnessed the " dancing" training......
This is what I see here.
Like I said above, there must be a proper way. I just never see it.
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