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    05-12-2010, 02:23 AM
Monty Robert's techniques

Hi there!! I have been learning about Monty Robert's techniques lately, and watching videos and stuff. I was curious if anyone has used his methods and how they liked the whole process? Was it easy on the horse, and fun for both you and the horse?

They seem really great, and I love his whole thought process of not hurting the horse and not traumatizing the horse. I've been around horses alot, but have never trained one to do anything at all, but I've always sort of disagreed (I guess is the best way to put it) with the way people go about it. Around here, they mostly just cowboy them, man handle, or whatever you want to call it.

Also, what do you think about using a 'buckstopper'? I can see how some people are offended by it, but I don't see it as causing a lot of pain. Please correct me if I'm wrong!! Also, what about that riding dummy? It seems um.... odd. It's kinda neat though. It seems like a good idea (to me at least)

I totally understand that I shouldn't completely stick to one training method and close all the others out. I like to take what I can from where ever I can and put it together in my head!!
Anyway, Let me know what yall think about the methods!!
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    05-12-2010, 04:25 AM
Green Broke
I like a lot of things he does, although they are also very, very easy to do wrong. As for the buckstopper, I think it has it's place. For a horse who throws in the odd buck here and there I wouldn't use it, but if I had a horse who bucked like a bronc all the time I'd probably use it. Bucking like that is dangerous and needs to be stopped. They learn that if they don't buck its far more comfortable.
    05-12-2010, 06:20 AM
Hey hillarymorganstovall,
I do like monty roberts and his "ways" but nothing does it better for me then Parelli! I find parelli is a lot more in the training side of things and his methods make you bond with with horse sooo much!! Mabye you should look into parelli??
    05-12-2010, 06:50 AM
I really like Monty Roberts..... I like the idea of bonding with your horse and having it want to be in your herd. Makes perfect sense. I recommend a book called "Horses Don't Lie". It is not a training manual, but a short book on how horses think as a prey animal. I think it gives you the mindset that you can give them a little extra think time when you look at it from their way.
    05-12-2010, 11:31 AM
Originally Posted by TabianoPaint    
hey hillarymorganstovall,
I do like monty roberts and his "ways" but nothing does it better for me then Parelli! I find parelli is a lot more in the training side of things and his methods make you bond with with horse sooo much!! Mabye you should look into parelli??
A while back I did look into it, and really liked the bonding part and when I see them doing all of the 'at liberty' stuff it is amazing. But I have heard people say some really negative things about a few of the methods they have used and have seen some questionable videos... but I do like some of the things!!

I can't remember who does the 'pressure and release' (it may be parelli) but I really like that too. It makes a lot of sense!!! So I'll probably use a combo of all the methods.
    05-12-2010, 11:52 AM
^^ALL training is about pressure and release. Its the only really effective way that horses learn.

I can't say anything about Monty Roberts, I haven't tried it myself, but it looks uncomplicated enough, but I'd agree with HC and say that they'd be very easy to get wrong.
    05-12-2010, 12:02 PM
Also, citrus, I will look at that book thanks

HowClever, I feel the same way about the buckstopper. If it's going to keep a bucker from ending up someplace horrible or keep someone safe it's worth the discomfort. It's probably even worth a little pain, kinda like a booster shot!!

I want to give yall a little info about her behavior problems.

My horse bucked me and I broke my arm. It's not a huge problem, I think she just had a spooky moment and I didn't handle it properly. She is pretty spooky. She had never bucked while I was riding before, but in the small pasture (my version of a round pen) she has bucked and kicked and had little temper tantrums when I was making her go around.

I was wondering if that sounds like a spooky problem or a spoiled brat problem (she also has took up pawing at the gate when bathed or saddled, and running from the saddle and saddle pad). I think probably it started as a spooky prob when she bucked me, but figured she could escape or make me leave her alone so she uses it as a problem solver now.

She was only 3 when we got her (green broke) and I think she was just 'forced' to ride, not 'taught' and like monty says, I think she resents the rider. It's not fun for her, and she may have been whipped or something which could be why she bucked and kicked in the round pen....
    05-12-2010, 12:14 PM
Hi there I am new to the forum well any forum for that matter. But I saw your post and wanted to give you some advice. I really like Monty Roberts I used his methods about ten years ago when I trained my first 2 year old. I was lucky enough to be able to meet and be in one of his clinics through my 4-H at the time. I believe his his methods thoroughly but like HowClever said it is easy to do something wrong. Parelli is a little to weird for me but has some good techniques. Lately, I have been watching and practicing Clinton Anderson techniques. All of these natural horse trainers have similar ideas on how to train horses without just throwing on a saddle jumping on and hoping for the best. I reccomend watching and learning several ways and get to where you are comfortable with your own style. If there are some behaviors you are working on stick with one technique. There is nothing wrong with training a horse several different ways as long as the end result is what you want.
    05-12-2010, 01:34 PM
Thank you barndiva... Welcome to the Forum, I'm pretty new myself...

How lucky you are to have met him.... He seems to have a great attitude and understanding of the horse mind!!

I noticed something that's pretty neat. Some training techniques get you to kind of force the horse around the round pen when you can't catch them and, eventually when you stop and invite them over, they come to you. Monty does sort of the same think when you JoinUp but he is looking for the subtle clues like head down, licking and chewing, giving you the ear and small circles. I think it is really cool how they use the same things to get the same results but in different ways, if that makes sense.

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