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    06-23-2010, 01:48 AM
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Question More than plenty issues (Beginner needing help <3)

I own an eighteen year old grade (not that it matters, but his coggins say QH cross, and I say POA Appy mutthing) gelding that I bought recently, and while he is the most sane horse I've been around, we have some issues I can't sort out.

He is BRILLIANT for tacking up - stands nicely, doesn't fidget, and drops his head into the bridle for you (but has to be reminded to take the bit, which doesn't bother me) but once I go to mount, he steps backwards to follow me and doesn't stand still til I've sorted him out three or four times, or someone is there to hold him for me.

After I'm up, he's eager to be off and going and will walk off. That's pretty bothersome, as now he's walked off when I'm only half up and I've had to fling myself over the saddle and squirm upright while he's cheerfully carrying on his way. He hates standing still, and will fidget, paw and act like a twit tossing his head until we're going again.

And then.. There is his weaving. And some other things. When we go out alone (we typically go with my friends and do leisurely walks), he weaves constantly and is completely dead-sided to leg when I KNOW he knows what I'm asking, because he's perfect when my friend is there. And he balks if I correct him too much for his liking and we dance sideways.

I know I can handle his surprise!Balk/Spooks, but the abrupt sidepassing sideways that he'll pull when he doesn't want to go forward without caring what is beside us really worries me. One day, he didn't want to cross a road with a ditch/creek on either side (road is all earth and dirt, completely and utterly solid and very wide) when he crosses it all the time fine and he abruptly went sideways into some downed treelimbs and didn't seem fussed at all.

... So, that was very rambly, all in all, but I need some tips. He ONLY does it when it's just me. I think he reckons he's got my number, and he smartens up quick when my (much more assertive, alpha-mare type) friend shows up. He doesn't pull ANY of it when she rides him for me -.-'
Hopefully going to enroll us in some lessons soon, so that'll be great but until then I really need some ideas <3

If you read all of that, you are awesome <3
     
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    06-23-2010, 02:17 AM
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Yearling
Respect respect respect! If I were you I would look into doing some ground work and natural horsemanship to gain your horses respect and trust so that he teams up with you as much as he does with your friend :)

I hope someone else has some great advice too -- good luck!
     
    06-23-2010, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by GreyPony    

He is BRILLIANT for tacking up - stands nicely, doesn't fidget, and drops his head into the bridle for you (but has to be reminded to take the bit, which doesn't bother me) but once I go to mount, he steps backwards to follow me and doesn't stand still til I've sorted him out three or four times, or someone is there to hold him for me.
Take his head and bend it towards you. If he still doesn't stop then take him and turn him in a circle until he stops on his own. Keep repeating this until he realizes that it's easier to stand still.

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After I'm up, he's eager to be off and going and will walk off. That's pretty bothersome, as now he's walked off when I'm only half up and I've had to fling myself over the saddle and squirm upright while he's cheerfully carrying on his way. He hates standing still, and will fidget, paw and act like a twit tossing his head until we're going again.
Make sure when you're mounting you have his head turned towards the side your mounting on. At first make him stop until all four feet stop, don't let him walk forward. But here's the hard part to remember! When he stops completely, as soon as you feel him get ready to walk off put your legs on him. So it turns into YOUR idea, not his. Keep doing this until he realizes it's easier to stand still. Plus make your horse have a real "Workout" while riding. It will make everything easier.


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And then.. There is his weaving. And some other things. When we go out alone (we typically go with my friends and do leisurely walks), he weaves constantly and is completely dead-sided to leg when I KNOW he knows what I'm asking, because he's perfect when my friend is there. And he balks if I correct him too much for his liking and we dance sideways.
This could be anything really. But from what I've read here maybe your over correcting?
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I know I can handle his surprise!Balk/Spooks, but the abrupt sidepassing sideways that he'll pull when he doesn't want to go forward without caring what is beside us really worries me. One day, he didn't want to cross a road with a ditch/creek on either side (road is all earth and dirt, completely and utterly solid and very wide) when he crosses it all the time fine and he abruptly went sideways into some downed treelimbs and didn't seem fussed at all.
First walk him beside it a few times, then once you get the confidence to go over it make him walk over it. Even if it takes an hour, make him go over it. Don't ever let him refuse. It doesn't matter how he goes over it, the first time is never pretty.



Don't worry about what your friend can do. She probably just rides with more confidence. I hope you enroll in lessons they make horse owning so much more better. And your horse has learned that he can get away with things with you.
     
    06-23-2010, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GreyPony    
He is BRILLIANT for tacking up - stands nicely, doesn't fidget, and drops his head into the bridle for you (but has to be reminded to take the bit, which doesn't bother me) but once I go to mount, he steps backwards to follow me and doesn't stand still til I've sorted him out three or four times, or someone is there to hold him for me.

After I'm up, he's eager to be off and going and will walk off. That's pretty bothersome, as now he's walked off when I'm only half up and I've had to fling myself over the saddle and squirm upright while he's cheerfully carrying on his way. He hates standing still, and will fidget, paw and act like a twit tossing his head until we're going again.
For not standing when you go to mount I suggest backing him up and back him up hard. Get into him a little bit. He's not respecting you and that is not right. Once he is backing up quickly and responsively bring him back to the mounting block and try again. He'll soon realize it's easier to stand still.

As for the walking off when you are getting on, once again, back him up. Get into him REALLY good about this. Put those legs on and make him back up until he is soft for you and then make him stand. If he tries to walk off again, back him up again. Repeat until he stands and waits for you.

Overall just be more assertive! I know its hard with the animals we love but it's necessary!! Remember they are ANIMALS and not people.
     
    06-23-2010, 02:12 PM
  #5
Banned
The moving mount is always a delight isn't it?! It is one of my biggest pet peeves with horses so here is how I correct it.

Make sure he knows your coming. I always give mine a lil pat on the hiney before sticking my foot in. Stick your foot in and wait. You may have to hop in circles, but wait. Once he is calm, take your foot out and lead him around. Do this again unti the foot has no response. Once you get that, hop on and immediatly back. Don't wait for him to make a mistake. You want him to know that the first thing you do when you mount is back. Sometimes they are just anticipating our move (like when you want to trot and before you signal, they start trotting) Let him know that your first move is always back. After a few paces back, stop him and make him stand. It is quite the ritual but it works.
     

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