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    07-27-2009, 08:14 PM
  #31
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Originally Posted by Vidaloco    


I don't agree with popping them with a bit to stop them from walking forward. They should just know that it is not acceptable to walk off when someone mounts and they must stay stopped until the cue is given to walk on.

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I admit I am new to training green horses.
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Why can't you just stop/popping as you say when you mount to keep them from moving??? What is more simple then to just halt them when they try to walk off?? If you are a good mounter/ can do it with grace and not flop down on the horse why can't you just halt him??
I do break half wild horses and get them to quickly stand quiet while mounting by using the reins and just halting them. I mount, make them stand totally quiet and only when I feel they are relaxed pat the neck and squeeze with the legs to have them move out.
Within the week of starting a totally green half wild horse they will stand for the simple act of mounting.

Once you are mounted and you want to stop the horse what do you do about halting them?? I sit down back in the saddle, say HO, and pull the reins if they do not stop. Seems logical enough?
So why can't |I do the same thing when I go to mount and the horse moves forward???
     
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    07-27-2009, 08:40 PM
  #32
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I prefer to not rely on my hands as much as possible. I prefer the sit back "whoa" and if all else fails use the hands. Again I have been using a bitless bridle up until today. I started their training by teaching them to ground tie and to stand stopped at a "whoa" while I walked away, even out of sight. All with just a rope halter and lead rope not with a bit. I then started to work with them with a mounting block. Excepting the block and me climbing up on it. This all before I ever got on their back (they were 2 when I started this)
When I finally started the actual saddle training, one filly wanted to walk off when I tried to mount. I spent many hours going back to her ground tie and whoa training. Still she wanted to walk out.
I saw the above video, tried it 2-3 times, she now stands for mounting and will stand till I give the cue to go forward.
Again I have no problem how you do it, I was just making the statement that it worked for me.
I am not a graceful mounter, I need a horse who will stand for me to get up however I do it. Lets face it the majority of horse owners today are middle-aged women. If you want to market a horse to them, the horse has to stand for mounting even if you have crawl up there and flop down like a dead heifer. I believe a well trained horse should stand still no matter if your graceful about it or not.

ETA- I want to add that I also kick my mare in the rump once in awhile when I mount up. Just so she isn't like so many horses who freak out when a small child or elderly person (my mother in law or young niece) gets on. I've seen cowboy horses bolt when a greenie gets on and accidental kicks them. To me this isn't a well broke horse.
     
    07-27-2009, 08:59 PM
  #33
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Originally Posted by Vidaloco    
I prefer to not rely on my hands as much as possible. I prefer the sit back "whoa" and if all else fails use the hands. Again I have been using a bitless bridle up until today. I started their training by teaching them to ground tie and to stand stopped at a "whoa" while I walked away, even out of sight. All with just a rope halter and lead rope not with a bit. I then started to work with them with a mounting block. Excepting the block and me climbing up on it. This all before I ever got on their back (they were 2 when I started this)
When I finally started the actual saddle training, one filly wanted to walk off when I tried to mount. I spent many hours going back to her ground tie and whoa training. Still she wanted to walk out.
I saw the above video, tried it 2-3 times, she now stands for mounting and will stand till I give the cue to go forward.
Again I have no problem how you do it, I was just making the statement that it worked for me.
I am not a graceful mounter, I need a horse who will stand for me to get up however I do it. Lets face it the majority of horse owners today are middle-aged women. If you want to market a horse to them, the horse has to stand for mounting even if you have crawl up there and flop down like a dead heifer. I believe a well trained horse should stand still no matter if your graceful about it or not.

ETA- I want to add that I also kick my mare in the rump once in awhile when I mount up. Just so she isn't like so many horses who freak out when a small child or elderly person (my mother in law or young niece) gets on. I've seen cowboy horses bolt when a greenie gets on and accidental kicks them. To me this isn't a well broke horse.

Teach the horse to hobble. It is simple to teach, takes about a week and it really teaches a horse to ground tie. They learn to stand quietly for long periods of time. My guy wears them for about 1/2 hour every day while he is groomed or saddled.
Mounting gracefull or not, once my guys are trained which doesn't take much time they will stand no matter what. I too also mount from the off side for practice. I ground tie at the end of the laneway, loosen the girth, put my gloves back in the saddle bag and take off the curb chain. I also walk around the horse checking the 4 feet for stones or loose shoes. I then walk in the lane to loosen myself up and let the blood back into the horses back. He stands perfect for this.
     
    07-27-2009, 09:09 PM
  #34
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I have been thinking of hobble training my mares for when we horse camp. Even stopping for lunch, it would be nice to just carry some hobbles in the saddle bags and let them graze.
It should be easy they are all used to things around the legs. I started them all off as babys dragging a short lead rope around for a few weeks.
I recently purchased a pair of soft rope hobbles, what do you think of starting off with it?
Like these-
     
    07-27-2009, 09:49 PM
  #35
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Originally Posted by Vidaloco    
I have been thinking of hobble training my mares for when we horse camp. Even stopping for lunch, it would be nice to just carry some hobbles in the saddle bags and let them graze.
It should be easy they are all used to things around the legs. I started them all off as babys dragging a short lead rope around for a few weeks.
I recently purchased a pair of soft rope hobbles, what do you think of starting off with it?
Like these-
Read this post and if you have questions?
Training Horse To Accept Hobbles
     

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