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    09-13-2011, 08:55 AM
I use two methods, depending on the situation.
One is to back them up, as has been said before.
The other method, which worked for my boy, was as soon as he took a single step I would push him FORWARD into a tight circle and make him move and move and move. When he'd look at me like "can I stop please?" then I'd make him do 1 or so more circles, and then let him stop. He figured out VERY quickly that it's much more pleasant to stand still.

Once you ARE on, your work doesn't stop. If you always ask them to move off the second you hit the saddle, they will be anticipating that and move off early. Make them stand still for a minute after you get on. Or get on and then make them back up a few steps before moving forward. Teach them that they can't move off just because you got on.
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    09-13-2011, 09:08 AM
At hubba what does flex laterally mean?
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    09-13-2011, 09:35 AM
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To flex a horse laterally, you bring their head to the side and hold it there until they bring their head a little farther than you are holding. Personally, I wouldn't "flex" them while mounting.

What I do is bring their head to the side just a little bit and hold their head there until I am mounted. If they were to walk off, they should automatically circle from having their head 'tipped' to the side. I would either hop with them until they stop or make them back up to at least where they were when I started to mount. When I do get on, that's when I have the gorse flex, several times to both sides before I ask them to move.

Lakotababii - I like how you put "the correct side." If you are doing shows, from what I hear, then the left side is the correct side. Otherwise, either side is right, as long as the horse has been trained for it
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    09-13-2011, 10:43 AM
Be careful that you are not jabbing them in the girth when you step into the stirrup. Never let them walk off until you ask them to.
    09-13-2011, 11:15 AM
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I think you should teach every horse that "Whoa!" means to 'lock up ' and stand perfectly still. If a horse has been taught to respect your "Whoa!", all the other problems caused by a horse not standing still just disappear -- grooming, saddling, mounting, putting junk on your horse to carry, standing for shoeing, etc. All of these work much easier if your horse knows that "Whoa!" means to stand still.

I have severe arthritis, bad hips and knees and a really bad back. My horses have to stand perfectly still while I wallow around trying to get on them. I still try to start 1 or 2 colts a year (1 gray filly this year has 5 rides on her), so they have to learn to stand still from day 1.

I also train trail horses for 'Dummies' to ride. I take out trail rides and sell 'Dummy-proof' trail horses. They have to stand perfectly still for inept riders that jab them with their toes, take too long to get on and 'flop' on them like a ton of lead. They have to be forgiving and patient. They all get their start by learning total and complete respect for the word "Whoa!"

I also make a horse stand for quite a while after mounting and I always back a horse up and turn it around in a tight circle, usually to the right, BEFORE I ask it to step off and go forward.

[by the way, I am not calling people 'Dummies' per se. I am using the same example as the books by that name --- that I have several of in my personal library.]
    09-13-2011, 03:00 PM
Originally Posted by prolandsurveyor    
Ah ok...I will try that....its starting to get on my nerves.
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Angry or scared? It SHOULD bother you. A friend (on another forum) told me that she and friends used to mount their horses (as kids) like this until one of them tumbled when the horse moved off and broke a rib.
Perhaps he is nervous about mounting. I used to check my saddles before lessons (when I taught), by grabbing the candle and pommel, then hanging. If it was loose, it would shift too much. Try this to see if he has a fright issue. It's easy to let go, and he won't walk off with your foot in the stirrup which makes you VERY vulnerable no matter what saddle you use.
If the advice posted above does not work--thought I hope my advice is redundant--you may have to go back a step in his training and demand that he stand still. If so, and you if you don't use a mounting block borrow one and use it ONLY bc it is specific to mounting and your horse will recognize that you are working on his mounting to saddle manners.
Walk him to the mounting block instead of moving it to HIM, and demand that he stand there while you climb the steps. Hold the reins and smack your mounting stirrup. Also, take the saddle and move it. Then, mount quickly and don't be gentle about it bc he needs to know that you the leader and NOT a predator trying to skulkily jump on his back. There is the difference between mounting a horse that needs training and a finished one. On the finished horse I try not to irritate him/her and I mount such a horse as quietly as possible.
Some folks think that you should move off quickly after that, but I respectfully disagree. I have been filling in the gaps on my big guy (in the Avatar) and he has some nervousness about mounting AFTER being tied up for awhile. (Horses are just a bag of nerves, ha know--go figure this one. THIS one was a "retread", and I haven't a clue as to why his nerves get to him. Once you get past the mounting problem he is very light to his cues, including neck reining which DH taught him to do last summer.) ANYWAY, I do above, then mount and soothe, but sit for several minutes. I have found that when DH I work together with him, I do about 5 minutes of pre-mounting lunging, primarily waving/slapping my arm like you use a whip while holding the reins, both sides, and get his edge off. As of yesterday, when I cue to walk him with my legs AFTER mounting, it's currently upsetting, so I use the words, "walk on", which I taught him on the ground. Also, my DH walks away at the same time and he follows, then when walk for 5-10 minutes--session done. Following the human helps a LOT. I have to translate that to the term "walk on" by itself, then I'll add the leg cue. If it seems like much ado about nothing, take ballroom dance sometime. It is MUCH harder to do than you'd think! LOL Hope this helps you, or someone else. =D
    09-13-2011, 05:51 PM
Clarification: When I lunge as described above, I am NOT slapping my horse, but I slap my leg, wave my arms and whistle--basically make a lot of noise and work on my gelding's desensitization. Just so you know. =D
    09-13-2011, 06:20 PM
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