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  • 4 problems when mounting a horse
  • Horse wont let me mount

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    02-03-2012, 03:12 AM
  #1
Foal
Mounting issues??

First off id like to state IM SHORT. And my horse is a little over 15 hands. So easy solution to this is a little mounting block. However, my horse just walks off or simply steps aside to far for me to even try to get on once I step up on the block. Are there any tips for breaking her of this?
Im trying to get more limber to get on without a block, but that's a whole other issue on its own, so block it is!

* we tried having someone holding her next to a fence so she couldnt move away and she pretty much pushes whoevers holding her to get far enough away from the block. It hink she feels crowded when we did this*
     
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    02-03-2012, 01:47 PM
  #2
Yearling
It probably has nothing to do with the mounting block. You just have a horse that does not want to stand when mounted, a common problem.

Your horse just figured out that mounting block = being mounted. She also figured out that if she moves off, it is difficult for you to get on.

So this is what I would do. Place the mounting block in the middle of an open area (such as an arena). Make sure you have plenty of room. Then attempt to mount the horse as you normally would. If the horse won't let you mount, then either make her back (you may have to hop off the block) or circle her around the block (I would try circling Before backing). Then reattempt to mount. Keep doing this, and she'll eventually stand nice. IF she doesn't respond, become more aggressive with the backing or circling.

If she attempts to move off before you are firmly mounted, do the same thing as you did on the ground. If she's a real booger, and moves off when you have one foot in the stirrup and are swinging over, grab the rein and make her do TIGHT circles around. So mounting from the right, grab the right rein and make her circle around you while you swing your leg over. Then make her stand still until you ask her to move off.

It's a process, but eventually they learn its easier to let you get on then to do infinite circles/backing.
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    02-03-2012, 07:43 PM
  #3
Trained
How bout checking out the 'clicker training' thread??
     
    02-04-2012, 12:38 AM
  #4
Foal
My barrel gelding was bad about that. So what I did is when I went to get on I had a tighter reign and when hed go to walk off I would say whoa cody (my geldings name) and pull back and try it again if he didnt let me on again and walked off I would turn his head in towards me and the try and get on while saying whoa cody. Then when id get on I wouldnt have both feet in the stirrups and hed try walking off again so id say whoa cody and just make him stop and stand there even when I got my feet in and was ready to go again. I did this about 5 times in one evening when id go run the pattern then dismount for something then re mount. And He is now standing alot better for me while being mounted. I would move with him. If he thinks walking away will make you not get on just follow him to where he goes hey it don't matter where I go she's going to get on anyway. Or make him walk back to the mounting block where you had him and bump your reings up by the bit down and say whoa (horses name) Stand. And then try it and keep doing that till he stands there.
     
    02-04-2012, 12:54 PM
  #5
Showing
This is the thread loosie mentioned: clicker training horse to stand for mounting

But I agree with Lakota, it sounds like he's got a case of the dancing feet. Meaning he will not stand still for extended amounts of time. That's a training issue that is solved in many ways. My favourite way, though, is to undo everything they just did. If they step away 4 steps and turn on their haunches right 2 steps... I turn them left on their hanches 2 steps and back them up 4 steps. After a few times of this, they'll realize "hey.. she leaves me alone when I don't do anything... okay I guess I'll just stand here then."

Now you have to be consistent. Remember horses don't speak English. If you let them get away with it one time, and then tell them off the next they're going to think about what the heck the silly person did that to them for.. what was different about this time versus the previous time. Or some horses are just dumb doughnuts and keep on pressing and need a BIGGER CLEARER reminder.

Another way to tackle it is to make it more work to move. Back up 20 steps till the far wall of the arena. Lunge them on the spot at trot, making them change directions a few short times before telling them to halt. Another way is to make them turn on their haunches and forehand a few handful of times.

Just you need to be consistent but not repetitious. Meaning.. every time your horse walks off, don't spin them around and around and around on their haunches or they might think that's the next step in the equation. By consistent, I mean same level of reprimand. No emotion. Right away. Every time.
     
    02-04-2012, 02:50 PM
  #6
Super Moderator
Respect. Respect! RESPECT!!!

Teach this horse to respect the word "Whoa!" and make her pay a price she is not willing to pay for taking a single step when you say. "Whoa!"

It is all about manners and she needs some better ones. Teaching your horse to stand perfectly still and let you walk all around her, step back away from her, go back and brush her tail, step 10 feet out in front of her or mount her with a toe stuck in her ribs --- she should stay 'locked up' like her feet are nailed to the floor when you say "Whoa!"

The fact that she pushes a second handler around tells me that her manners are atrocious. Start there.

I use a stiff rope halter and a 12 - 15 foot soft lead-rope. I stand out in the middle of the driveway and say "Whoa!" When the horse moves, I jerk the lead-rope 2 or 3 times hard and say "Whoa!" again. Within 5 minutes, almost any horse will figure out that it is unpleasant to move and perfectly pleasant with no pressure when it stands still.

If you try to mount her and she walks forward, step back down, say "Whoa!" sharply and jerk her and back her up past where she started. Say the magic word and do it all over. She will 'get' it. I promise.
     
    02-04-2012, 02:58 PM
  #7
Showing
Agree with Cherie. She needs to learn that whoa means whoa, means it now and means it until you say she can move. I also back them up past the starting point if they don't stand still to mount, if they want to keep moving, then we'll keep on backing. It will eventually click that it's much easier to do as asked than to buck the system.
     
    02-04-2012, 04:48 PM
  #8
Foal
When she moves off step down from the mounting block and back her up a few steps, then try again. If she moves this time, keep her moving! Don't let her stop till you want her too, keep her feet moving. After moving her around and making her move her feet. Retreat back to the mounting block. If she moves off get down and move her feet HARD make her back up back her move her feet sideways, forwards left and right.

You have to make her use her brain for this technic to work. She's got to learn and understand. "If I stand I wont get worked and my feet moved and I get to rest. If I move I'll get my feet worked and be punished.". Horses are NATURALLY lazy animals. All the wanna do is eat grass and just lounge around. In moving there feet and making them work when the have done something wrong I.E. In this situation move away from the mounting block. The realize that paying attention and listening and standing is better then getting there feet worked and having them move around.

When she moves off get down every time and back her up and move her feet. The first time she stands and waits for you to get on. Get on and give her LOTS of praise. Let her know she has done well. But if you put your foot in the stirrup and she moves take it out and move her around HARD again. Consistence is the key in this thing. You have to make her work at it. But she in time will learn.
     
    02-04-2012, 06:22 PM
  #9
Yearling
I agree with Cherie and MHF…and once you mount, just sit there a minute or two…whoa means stay put until you tell her to move. I think too many horses anticipate their riders taking off as soon as they are mounted and begin to move before they should, which can lead to problems such as this.
     
    02-04-2012, 07:12 PM
  #10
Showing
Thanks for adding that HorsePoor, excellent point. Making them stand quietly once mounted is an always for me.
     

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