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    05-12-2013, 09:24 PM
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Weanling
Moved horse to new barn and he is acting badly

I moved my horse a week ago to a new facility. Three days ago he was cantering in from the field when I called his name. Today I had to walk to get him and he tried to run from me several times. I ended up herding the entire group of horses towards the barn and then left them close by and he finally came to meet me in the barn. Before I could get him haltered another horse came into the small entryway and they started challenging each other in the small space. I yelled and shooed the other horse away and was able to halter my horse and bring him in, but he was high necked and fidgety the whole time. I tried to drive the other horses back out to pasture with a lunge whip but they kept coming back. As long as they were there he was a nervous wreck. I feel like he will backslide quickly with his training, but I have no experience dealing with a herd situation. My questions are:
1. How do I not only show dominance over him, but the entire herd, so that they don't harass him when I bring him in and send him back out.
2. How should I separate him from the herd when I want to bring him in so that they do not follow, but HE will?
3.I switched him from sweet feed to pellets shortly after I bought him because of his hot attitude. I thought that he had come along so well that I could try a regular feed again(as this is all my new barn offers)I am wondering if this is contributing to his hautiness?
4.The barn does not have a roundpen or arena where I can lunge him. Does anyone else have to deal with these sorts of circumstances and do you all have any suggestions on how to work with an uppity horse where the space is limited and seems to be crowded with other horses?

Sorry this is so long and thank you to anyone who takes the time to read it. I feel like I have come such a long way with this horse, but my confidence is being quickly deflated and I am wondering if this is something we can overcome or if I made a huge mistake by changing barns.
     
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    05-12-2013, 09:33 PM
  #2
Weanling
I wanted to add that after all of thi s^^^ I watched the herd interaction for a long while and I feel like my horse is like a teenager in a new school trying to fit in. He seems to be jockeying for position with the lead horse. They seem to be the two biggest boys on the block. I think it is also a mixed herd which complicates things. There are only about 10 horses boarded here and they are not turned out separately. After I herded them all in and took him and turned him back out it looked like they all shunned him. Like they were calling him out for coming in to his mama. Am I personifying this too much?
     
    05-12-2013, 09:37 PM
  #3
Yearling
If the herd is that aggressive you have more problems than just your horse's behavior. Is there anywhere you can move your horse away from all of them. Unfortunately, if they don't belong to you there's really not much you can do training-wise. What do the other owners do? Is there anyone you can ask to help you?

This sounds miserable.
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    05-12-2013, 10:00 PM
  #4
Showing
Sounds like you are humanizing just a tad I'd give him a few weeks to get settled in and find his place in the herd. That's not something that is going happen in a week. There will always be a maneuvering for position but it will settle into some order in a month or so.
We have 4 horses we keep out together all the time. Many time when I go out to get one, they all gather around. It can be intimidating sometimes, especially if they're feeling particularly "wonderful". I use the horse in hand to control the rest. If someone is getting too close I turn the in hand horses butt to them. I figure using a 1200 lb animal is better than just little ol me when it comes to getting someone out of my space when there is a herd at liberty.
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    05-12-2013, 10:11 PM
  #5
Weanling
Palogal--I have been out here at least every other day and have not yet met another boarder. I will eventually meet them and will be dying to ask how they deal with these issues. This is definitely a different situation than what my horse and I are used to. I want to learn to adapt and I am determined to figure that out.
     
    05-12-2013, 10:21 PM
  #6
Showing
Hey.... he's adjusting. It's a new environment, a new herd.. he's going to be a bit on edge. He's going to question if you are a leader worth following or if he needs to step up and take charge.

Moving really reveals your relationship with your horse. I suggest you guys work a bit more on ground work exercises and corrections right away if he doesn't listen. He needs to trust you and look to you for guidance and 'the next move' so to speak.
     
    05-12-2013, 10:32 PM
  #7
Green Broke
This is actually pretty normal.

He is with a new herd and you're right - he is like a teenager trying to fit in. Horses do have a herd hierarchy and a new horse disrupts the existing herd order so everyone has to shuffle around and find a new place. Unfortunately, this means he's also going to test his place with you. You're going to have to reestablish yourself as leader - so go back to basics and do lots of groundwork.

As for the herd, they are going to have to learn their place with you too. If you need to go out there with a crop to keep them off you, then do so - be sure you talk to your BO about it. If they are anti-whip, swing the lead line around if they come too close.
     
    05-12-2013, 10:32 PM
  #8
Showing
Now for your questions:

1. How do I not only show dominance over him, but the entire herd, so that they don't harass him when I bring him in and send him back out.

Follow through with your threats. Back off when they listen.


2. How should I separate him from the herd when I want to bring him in so that they do not follow, but HE will?
This is a fun one. Usually if my horse is playing hard to get I have a pocket full of treats (for AFTER he is caught and we are out of the paddock) and a rope halter. I chuck the rope halter (and hang onto the leadrope) to make him run off. Or use a lunging whip/dressage whip/whip with bag) until he stops running and looks at you then softly walk towards him. If he looks away or turns away chase him off again. The other horses I just growled at or prompted to move away. It's a pain but it works

3.I switched him from sweet feed to pellets shortly after I bought him because of his hot attitude. I thought that he had come along so well that I could try a regular feed again(as this is all my new barn offers)I am wondering if this is contributing to his hautiness?

You never know... it could be but I feel it is more behavioral.

4.The barn does not have a roundpen or arena where I can lunge him. Does anyone else have to deal with these sorts of circumstances and do you all have any suggestions on how to work with an uppity horse where the space is limited and seems to be crowded with other horses?

Find somewhere flat and use a leadline and do some ground work with him. "Send" him places, tach him to yield to pressure, to walk and trot in hand, etc.
     
    05-12-2013, 10:42 PM
  #9
Yearling
Just be careful how you interact with someone else's horse. That can cause boarder issues. I am very spoiled and have my horses at home. However, I work out of a boarding facility and there are some fussy boarders there.
     
    05-13-2013, 07:13 AM
  #10
Weanling
All good advice!! Thank you so much. I feel much less worried now about the situation and I have my game plan for the near future.
     

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