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post #1 of 18 Old 09-13-2009, 08:38 PM Thread Starter
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Moves away when dismounting and mounting

Okay, so Ransom is doing sooo amazing with his training. He is so smart he anticipates what your asking of him and just wants to please. The only issue is occasionally while mounting he will move back away from you. Now he does stand still right before you mount but just as you are bring your leg up and around he will move out and back. He will also do this when dismounting. He has been sacked out real good and stands very still while first mounting. He does not move out from you every time just sometimes. My friend who is training him says he will eventully learn not to do that. She has been mounting and dismounting him and making sure his head is desenzitized. She uses Clinton Anderson's techniques. She is a wonderful trainer. Just wondering if you guys have experienced that and what you do? I wonder if the other trainer had either taught him this bad habit or its just a green horse thing.
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post #2 of 18 Old 09-13-2009, 09:21 PM
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You could try "parking" your horse. I park a young horse before I mount by grabbing the saddle horn and pull the horse quite firmly towards me and then push it away from me. What I am trying to do is cause the horse to spread his legs (both front and hind) a little thereby establishing a more solid base. A young horse is less likely to step to maintain his balance if his legs are spread a little.

I also will not swing my leg over if the horse is moving. I'll hang on the side of the horse as long as it takes for it to stand still.

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post #3 of 18 Old 09-13-2009, 09:42 PM Thread Starter
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Yeah, that's what she does. She does not totally mount him if he does that. We will try to park him out. She will flex his head towards the side she is mounting him on.
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post #4 of 18 Old 09-13-2009, 09:54 PM
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Well, this is where your patience really does become your virtue!
Mount, remount. Mount, remount. When he moves, correct him and try again. Again and again. Untill he stands still. Then let him have a break.
As frustrating as it is, he will eventually clue in that the sooner he stands still, the sooner he can you stop coming up and off him.

I was training this paint gelding, Mickee, who used to bolt everytime I got on and dismounted (for awhile I literally had to bail off while he loped away, which was interesting). Seems like a bad thing to do, but I fought with him constantly. So mounting up I let him run. When he didn't want to run anymore I asked him to lope a few more circles, asked him to whoa. He was tired enough to only dodged away.
Eventually, about a week later, he figured out that running wasn't such a good idea after all, and he never once moved again while mounting or dismounting. He figured out, on his own without a fight, that his idea sucked and mine worked.

I hate it when I get on a horse and they move without me asking. The horse I'm training right now is like that. Stop her, back her to where she was, say whoa. Correct her, whoa. Correct her, whoa.
She drives me insane but we are getting there, slowly but surely.

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my horse used to move away as I tried to get on him. I would put him in the round pen, and if he moved while I was trying to get on, I would send him and make him run. After a few minutes of running I would bring him back to the center and try it again. I think I had to do this 4 times...he doesn't move away from me anymore...

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post #6 of 18 Old 09-14-2009, 12:41 AM
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I agree with Mary. Make him work every time he steps away while you are trying to mount and he will figure out very quickly that he needs to stand still! Start by preparing him mentally for mounting, then get into position and raise your foot like you are going to mount. If he moves at all, put your foot down and send him around you in circles at a good clip (fast trot). Have him make a few full circles, then stop him, prepare him again, and try to mount again. If he moves, repeat the circles, etc. It usually only takes a few times before they decide that standing still is much easier.
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post #7 of 18 Old 09-14-2009, 12:54 AM
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Use a wall if you have to. (Put it so its on the other side when you mount and dismount) :-D
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post #8 of 18 Old 09-14-2009, 03:13 AM
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Sounds to me like a pretty typical colt thing. Most young horses go through a stage like that; some only last a couple of mountings and others last for months. Just keep working with him and he will figure it out.

One other thing, does she let him just sit for a bit when she gets on or is she asking for movement quickly after her butt hits the saddle?

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Yes, she just sits on him and touches him all over. If he does bolt while trying to mount she works him and then she tries again. Other than that issue he is doing great! If it would stop raining here we could be more consistent. She works during the day and works him in the evening. It's cool because I am involved in his training.
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post #10 of 18 Old 09-14-2009, 02:11 PM
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Is the rider poking a foot into him and cueing him to move?

More experienced horses know the difference but younger horses exaggerate the cue.
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