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        08-14-2008, 09:44 PM
    Murray on Trail: Updated Daily

    So I have Murray on trial for the month at my stables. He arrived on Tuesday night, and I seen him on Wednesday and today.

    So far I have worked with him on the ground, leading him around and showing him the place. Then came the time to ride him on Wednesday. I used a Tom Thumb bit and a really heavy western saddle. Troubles with the bridling, but he did well.

    Anyways, walked abit but not in a good working walk, then I tried to move him into a trot. He didn't like it. LOTS of cowkicks from him and myself kicking him to make him move. Susan was yelling at me, to yell at him and make him work. Later, I had to use a dressage whip. He didn't like that much either. More cowkicks, but I held on. Then, went for another working walk, little better, then tried the trot again and he went smoothly, with few cowkicks. He worked up a great sweat which I later walked him by hand and groomed and, he of course, rolled in the dirt later.

    So Susan said to me, that it's great I have him for the month, It's better for me to have a understanding with him. And, to get over that "bump" in the way quicker to see how he reacts later on.

    So, any ideas on what I can do with him on trial? I want to be able to ride him without Susan watching over (I had her watch to make sure nothing stupid happens) and without the cowkicks. He hasn't been ridden like that (and we only rode an hour) in over a year. More of a pet with few simple trail rides.

    My plan is, if I do buy him in the end, I'd like to use him as a dressage horse, with some jumping and trails. Thanks everyone!
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        08-14-2008, 09:51 PM
    It sure sounds like the saddle is hurting him. Is it his saddle, or yours?
        08-14-2008, 09:55 PM
    Originally Posted by Arrow
    It sure sounds like the saddle is hurting him. Is it his saddle, or yours?
    No, it's not. His owner, Susie, uses a lighter one than the one I used, but with 2 saddle pads. I had the heavier one to make up for the weight of his owner, and a single pad.

    His owner did suggest that it might be hurting him, so that why I didn't ride him today. Her suggestion was another pad to make him comfy.
        08-15-2008, 12:20 PM
    I would check out your tack. Make sure nothing is pinching him , and make sure there isnt anything on the saddle pad to cause irratation
        08-15-2008, 01:27 PM
    The weight of your saddle should have nothing to do with it but extra padding on a saddle the is too tight only makes it tighter. I would first check that out as everyone mentioned.

    Next I would take the TT bit and throw it away. The TT is an awful bit. (

    If your horse does not neck rein then go to a snaffle. If he does then a grazing bit or one with a Billy Allen mouth piece will work 100% better.
        08-15-2008, 07:04 PM
    I agree about checking your tack to make sure it fits properly and using something other than a TT. There are lots of better bits that you could use and it could certainly be the problem.
        08-15-2008, 09:30 PM
    TODAY'S UPDATE: Rode in the same tack, and he was MUCH better! More responsive and everything. Also, he nicely fits my English saddle as well. So I don't think the tack was a problem. Sue said he's being bossy with me as I am a softy.
        08-15-2008, 09:32 PM
    He was probably just testing you. I wouldn't use such a heavy saddle if you could help it and I still suggest changing bits because the TT is just not as good as some other softer bits. I mean, you might as well try a different one right? Because why use a harsher bit if you don't need to? :]

    Glad to hear that he was better though.
        08-15-2008, 09:35 PM
    Green Broke
    Throw that bit away!!!!!!!!!!

    Sound like the others said, could be a saddle issue.

    Otherwise, he's testing you to see just what he can get away with. If you let him get away with anything, he'll elevate his behavior.

    BTW - get rid of that horrible bit!!!!!!

        08-15-2008, 09:53 PM
    Yeah, I'm guessing he was testing me, but now knows, I mean business! Haha. I'll be riding him in a snaffle from now on as it's what his current owner uses on him. We used the Tom Thumb to get him use to the bit again, which I think he knows now. =]

    Wish I had filmed myself riding him today...such an improvement.

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