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    04-24-2011, 10:14 PM
  #1
Foal
Question my 2 year old

I haven't been on the HF for a while, so I'm going to get my buildup of questions out while I'm on!! : )

A) will every horse explode and buck when started under saddle? I've got a horse that hasn't done anything... not even a blink because of the saddle and he's been through walk trot canter and had stirrups flapping and noise on the saddle. 2 year old and not sure if I should be waiting for the explosion moment before I get on.

And... b) this horse is an "over achiever" LOL! But really... everything has to be right so there is no form of correction or punishment. It's ALL try and effort. Do I have to keep things super slow, or can I add more training as long as every things going smooth?
     
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    04-25-2011, 03:36 AM
  #2
Trained
A) Depends on pre-trainign and desensitizing of the saddle. If you chuck the saddle on and jump on with no pre-training, yeah, the horse will buck. Proper training will minimize the risk of the horse bucking. Also the horses temperament and how mentally ready it is.

B) I really can't understand what you are asking.
     
    04-25-2011, 10:31 AM
  #3
Weanling
A) I was on my mare within a week for sacking out and ground work. She didn't even flinch when I got on her, nor did she when I pput the saddle on her and took it off a few times and again not a flinch when I sat in the saddle. Some horses have a calmer personality. I imagine if I would have just put a saddle on and go ton her she would have spooked, but when you go aout it properly and there is no reaction then you're doing it right. If you really want to test it out, get a dummy (made out of coveralls or whatever) and tie it up on the saddle and have your horse go around on a long line...see if he spooks.

B) I think I understand what you're saying...if they learn everything really fast and get it rightcan you keep adding, or should you go slowly. My mare learns everything really quickly, she could handle more than a lot of horses at the age of 2 because her mind was more mature. All horses are different and you have t work with them, but I would try to keep adding things, if you see them 'shut down' go back to something they know, and when they finish doing something they know end on that note.

As long as you're not overwhleming the horse then there is no reason not to keep teaching (the best thing I use with my mare, is when she starts licking her lips, I know that she knows she has done something right, when she licks her lips, I move on to the next sequence in our training session)

Hope this helps some!
     
    04-25-2011, 04:00 PM
  #4
Foal
I am not trying to be rude, and I am sorry if this sounds harsh.
However, if you don't know enough to know the answer to those questions, then you should'nt be attempting to train your horse yourself.
2 years is too young to ride.
     
    04-25-2011, 04:30 PM
  #5
Weanling
Everyone will have their own opinions as to when is acceptable to start a horse, but at the end of the day regardless of the age, if the horse is catching on there is no harm in teaching him new things. In my opinion 2 is not necessarily too young to be under saddle, but is too young for any amount of heavy work/training. It all has to be light.

I started my mare at 2 1/2 and did basically all walking until she was 3 under saddle. The idea was to get her used to being handled, let her build her muscles slowly and to know the basic cues (again a lot of this was done from the ground too...walking with a bridle on while the trainer was on the ground teaching her to give to the bit) anything under saddle was again light work. From the sounds of it, you're keepi ngit light so far, and that's good.

The way I worked it with my mare was when I first started her out I spent no more than 15 minutes working her on a long line (i handled her 4 times a week but for short incriments whether under saddle or not).
As she got older the time increased as to how long she was being worked for, because a young horse has a small attention span and can only take so much at a time and while their minds mature you also don't want to stress their bodies so keep the time short even though you may be making a lot of progress.

Don't feel bad for asking, I respect the fact that you are at least taking the initiative. I trained my first horse this year and I had help the whole way along from experienced trainers of 30+ years...i still have questions!

Either way, the work you do with him under saddle should be really light, even on a longe line, if he is grasping everything then way as well keep teaching him , but in small time slots.

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Originally Posted by lovesmyhawse    
I am not trying to be rude, and I am sorry if this sounds harsh.
However, if you don't know enough to know the answer to those questions, then you should'nt be attempting to train your horse yourself.
2 years is too young to ride.
     
    04-25-2011, 09:40 PM
  #6
Foal
Thank you everyone for the response. It reassures me!!
     
    04-25-2011, 09:45 PM
  #7
Foal
Quote:
Originally Posted by lovesmyhawse    
I am not trying to be rude, and I am sorry if this sounds harsh.
However, if you don't know enough to know the answer to those questions, then you shouldn't be attempting to train your horse yourself.
2 years is too young to ride.
This was not helpful and was quite rude. I'm so sick of getting responses that don't answer a question, or are without facts.

You didn't ask me any questions, so you just have the right to assume that I'm going to be working my horse too much for the age? You don't know how big the horse is, or how much I have and am planning on working him. You also don't know my weight or size.

And I'm sorry that I've never come across a horse that has taken everything so well at such a young age.

I needed to hear from other people what they think, not have my abilities judged or be told whether or not I should train a horse.
     
    04-25-2011, 09:54 PM
  #8
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Paint Mom    
i haven't been on the HF for a while, so I'm going to get my buildup of questions out while I'm on!! : )

A) will every horse explode and buck when started under saddle? I've got a horse that hasn't done anything... not even a blink because of the saddle and he's been through walk trot canter and had stirrups flapping and noise on the saddle. 2 year old and not sure if I should be waiting for the explosion moment before I get on.

And... b) this horse is an "over achiever" LOL! But really... everything has to be right so there is no form of correction or punishment. It's ALL try and effort. Do I have to keep things super slow, or can I add more training as long as every things going smooth?
I will have to agree with kstinson. A. My gelding was desensitized really well and I took saddle time nice and slow. Consequently he has never bucked or reared. He has crow hopped but that was because he didn't like the word 'whoa' lol. As long as you handle it properly you will be fine.

B. Agreeing again, If they get it, keep going. Remember that they can't take too much at a time when thay are young, but if it takes you 10 minutes to go through your past training because he really gets it, then go ahead and teach them more! Just remember that smart horses learn EVERYTHING! Even the stuff you don't want them to learn! Lol
     
    04-27-2011, 04:18 PM
  #9
Foal
Sorry. You are right... I appologise. I immediately assumed when I saw your question, that you were very inexperienced and I guess I should not have.

However that being said.... Most horses don't explode when you get on their back for the first time. Horses who have had very little work done with them may give a small buck or two, but it is actually rather uncommon for a horse to "explode".

And yes, everybody does have a different opinion about what age to start a horse. So, here is a fact; Even though a 2 year old may look fully grown, and their legs may look fully grown, their spine and hips most likely are not. And there is no way to tell for certain unless you have an x-ray done. So if that horse's spine and hips are not developed enough, there is a risk of harming your horse. Even if the rider is a "light person".
Also I was not trying to criticize your abilities, training a horse is not rocket science. It's easy. But you do need to know what you're doing. So if this is your first time, you should probably find a certified coach, who can give you guidance and solid advice.
     

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