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  • What makes horses crow hop
  • 5 yr old gelding crow hops with saddle

 
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    09-03-2009, 11:05 AM
  #21
mls
Trained
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Originally Posted by ChevyPrincess    
The best advice I can give:

The two year old I'm looking into buying as trail horse likes to buck/ crow hop when asked to gallop. It might be becuase it's a new thing, but, I do know, that if you canter him up a hill, He can't buck, or crow hop. My trainer and I are going to work on that later today. But that's what he has done with his horses. And they have stopped. He also uses John lyons methods of Round Pen Reasoning.
I would expect a two year old TO buck if asked to gallop. They are barely balanced enough to lope at that age under saddle.
     
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    09-03-2009, 02:45 PM
  #22
Foal
I agree. Definitely don't reward him for his behavior by letting him quit working. Of course, if you feel like you are going to come off, pull him down with one rein and quickly start over. He needs to understand that this behavior is absolutely unacceptable, so making him work harder when he does it should help him decide that it's not a good idea.
     
    09-03-2009, 09:05 PM
  #23
Foal
I would make a suggestion that you put him into small circles, on his back, whenever he does this. It will of course cause him to slow down, but it will also interrupt the behavior in general and cause him to perform a behavior instead of your choosing.

In this way you are neither letting him "Get away" with it nor are you stopping your inputs.

Essentially every time you ask him to run and he crow hops go into a small circle right wherever you are. Start with 2 or 3. Then head off again. If he does it again, go to 5 or 6 circles.

At some point he will dislike the pointless circles enough to realize that crow hopping brings them on.

This will all be pointless if his saddle doesn't fit though.

Check the front of his saddle and be sure that you can fit your fingers between the saddle and his shoulder. If not the saddle could be rubbing his shoulders enough at full extension that it's painful or annoying.

Hope that helps.
     
    09-06-2009, 12:46 PM
  #24
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Barry Godden    
I asked the question, now I know. Thank you for the demonstrations.
I can see the hopping. It is the crow bit that confuses.

Barry, the crow part refers to when the crows are hopping at something (ie, piece of food, something shiny) and showing dominance. They will hop at it, wings slightly spread and head way down. Crows and ravens are a lot like horses, a lot of people assume they are mindless animals of little brain, but they are complex social beings with a wide range of emotions. They even play and make tools (which I have seen them store away for later use). One time I saw a raven riding an elk just for fun. The elk bucked and tore around the field like mad and that bird held on for dear life. I swear he was even smiling. Sorry to hijack, just wanted to share a love of crows and ravens when presented the opportunity.
     

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