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        02-17-2013, 05:43 PM
      #41
    Green Broke
    He is not your baby...he is a horse and I would imagine what you are seeing is the result of your babying him.

    I seriously doubt there is any pain involved, just a horse that has decided to do what it wants. In other words, this horse is spoiled.

    And fighting with him gives him a battleground.

    Instead of battling, just wait it out by sitting on him with his head facing way you want to go.

    And patting him and telling him good boy does nothing but make this worse. He has disobeyed, and you are praising him? For what?

    Your handling skills on the ground are more than likely lacking, they usually go hand in hand with this.

    Get a trainer to work with horse and you, but do not expect the horse to be cured, as any horse that knows it can run the show will do exactly that, and all horses will try this if given the chance.

    Walking him home, and round penning him also does nothing except make this worse. He wanted to go home, round penning him is of no consequence since he won.

    If you don't get this fixed, and learn how to deal with horses better, he may well flip over on you.

    And do not be fooled into thinking as so many do, that you can just buy another horse and fix this, as every horse will do exactly as this one has learned to do if not handled correctly.
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        02-17-2013, 06:20 PM
      #42
    Weanling
    I'm betting I'll get hate/ignored for this but w/e . . .

    If this is NOT a pain issue and just a behavioral issue, I think a lot of people under estimate the benefits of doing ground work.

    Forget your experience level and go back to basics. I find that if I take the time to do Natural Horsemanship/parelli-LIKE activities BEFORE I ride I get better results with my horse under saddle.

    I don't mean get a tarp and bunch party streamers or chase your horse with a stick and a plastic bag attached to it but challenge your horse to listen to YOU. HAND walk/trot him over poles and through obstacles. He should stay WITH you not rushing forward or bolting.

    Then get in the saddle and ask him to do the same things.

    IT JUST MIGHT HELP.

    I also agree with Palomine, round penning will only make his behavior worse. Even lunging, at this point, he needs to stay RELAXED.

    In addition, when you start riding him, don't clench the reins, give him a long rein and work on getting him to relax his head/neack. When he clenches his neck and stiffens up, grab the crest of his neck and wiggle it around, applying pressure, and when he releases scratch his withers.

    This helped with my mare it might help you out :)
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        02-17-2013, 06:29 PM
      #43
    Weanling
    I just wanted to add, this horse sounds like he needs a LOT of patience on your part.

    When I rescued my mare, 15H 12 year-old unbroke arab cross MARE (what was I thinking?!) I did about 2/3 months of solid ground work before I got on her.

    You cant's rush some horses.
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