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post #11 of 18 Old 11-18-2010, 11:22 AM Thread Starter
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What i mean by disuniting is that he cantering correct in the front but at the back he cantering counter counter canter sort of. He does it maybe because something might be hurting him. Maybe i didn't explain properly, he does it because also maybe because of inexperience and its really annoying because in the front he has the correct canter but he has the incorrect canter on his back legs. This normally happens when going into corners, because thats when they normally get unbalanced, the problem is i don't know how to get rid of it. The thing is that i do show jumping and i loose tons of time when going around a course and its really uncomfortable going round a corner. I loose time because i have to do big corners for him not to disunite as easily. If anyone has any more suggestions i would be very happy. Thanx.
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post #12 of 18 Old 11-18-2010, 11:28 AM
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ok, that's what I thought you meant. I know it as "cross firing". My OTTB does it sometimes too, especially on one side. My understanding is that once you rule out some type of pain, that it is about being imbalanced and lots of walk/trot work, trotting over poles, up hills, etc will help strengthen/develop the horse.
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post #13 of 18 Old 11-19-2010, 12:01 AM
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By 8 years old it's entirely feasable that there could be arthritic/boney changes in the joints. Largely dependant on the type of work the horse has had to do. It's extremely common in Thoroughbreds and Warmbloods, because most TB's are started too early, and most Warmbloods (especially those who are aimed at dressage) are 9 times out of 10 just generally weak in the joints. In part, due to their size.
If he continues to disunite, even after having injections and provided your saddle is fitting properly, I'd highly recommend getting xrays and scans done of the stifle and hock in particular. Some form of physio therapy in conjunction with strength building wouldn't go amiss either.
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post #14 of 18 Old 11-19-2010, 12:11 AM
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So your horse was given an injection of pain meds and he did not do this afterwards? Then to me it is clear that he is in pain from something, I think you should get a vet out to check him out.
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post #15 of 18 Old 11-19-2010, 09:56 AM
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From my experience it is common to "diunite" or "cross-fire" behind when there is a pain issue. In young horses I feel it could be balance but it should be checked.

The fact that you have had a joint injection in his hind leads me to believe there is a pain issue someplace.
Before the vet administered the joint inject did they do any evaluation of the horse?
You asked about flexion testing- didnt the vet do this before deciding to inject and to figure out where to inject? And possible cause?

If it were my horse I would have the vet come out and do a full lamness evaluation. If x-rays or ultrasound is needed i would fork the cash out and figure it out.

Does the horse constantly swich leads behind? Any previous injuries? How long ago was this injection and where exactly was it?

Does the horse ever "Hop" behind???

Just wondering because this can signal some type of lamness or pain issue. Even if it is very slight or grade 1.

Hope this helps...
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post #16 of 18 Old 11-20-2010, 09:47 AM Thread Starter
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My horse is indeed a thoroughbred and he was raced when he was really young. As far as i know he has not had any past injuries that i know of. The vet did some x-rays before she injected the medicine. She saw a small black spot which could have been arthritis, and so she injected it into the joint above the hoof. I will also see if a vet can help me to a full evaluation of the horse maybe with x-rays. Does anyone one know if the training of the horse from a early age can affect the canter specifically disuniting?
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post #17 of 18 Old 11-20-2010, 10:46 AM
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It could also be something in his back causing pain, if he's doing it mainly around turns. I once had a gelding brought to me for training that did this in one direction, but not the other, and turned out he had a pinched nerve in his back that hurt when he bent a certain way, we assume because he had twisted it funny kicking the wall in his stall. A chiro and a little rest sorted him right out. I'd have the vet check him for back pain the next time she's out.

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post #18 of 18 Old 11-20-2010, 12:06 PM
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Just to add my 2 cents- my OTTB also cross fires on one side. It was much worse before I got a properly fitting saddle (totally agree with My Boy Puck) but he still does it to some degree because he has a fibrotic myopathy in his right hind. It is a very common race horse injury and though he is sound to ride he will always have some degree of mechanical (not pain related) lameness in that leg. Unless you are 100% balanced at the canter he will swap out behind.

I strongly suggest you get him vet checked and the saddle fit checked out by a pro. I am willing to bet there is a combo of poor saddle fit and some degree of unsoundness in him. If all that checks out, I'd go back to looking at yourself and make sure you have him completely balanced at the canter.
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