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post #11 of 60 Old 06-29-2012, 03:45 AM
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Please don't criticize my training either. If you saw me ride her or rode her yourself, you would see that she's actually fun, easy, and safe to ride. If I was hurting her, she would make it clear to me. If she did make it clear, it would be during a ride or before I rode her and I would have it checked out.
But I think she is making it pretty clear that she doesn't like being ridden - whether it's a pain issue or whether she's sick of work, I think it would be obvious she is trying to communicate that she doesn't want to be doing this. If this were any other situation, I'd just say try tacking her up and un-tacking her without riding in between (perhaps doing something else that isn't work) but I think you really need to start listening to the signals she's giving you. There are very, very few people out there (I certainly know of none, on the forum or off) that would consider starting a horse at 18 mths a good plan for long-term soundness. Sorry if I sound brusque but there it is.
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post #12 of 60 Old 06-29-2012, 04:51 AM
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Please don't criticize my vet.
I did not criticise. I said they were the only reasons I can think of he would have that view. If he understood developmental physiology and cared about horses, I cannot fathom that he would have said anything of the sort.

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With her back, I didn't ride her that week, actually. I didn't do anything with her.
So you didn't get the vet or a bodyworker or anything? I would certainly be getting a good bodyworker now at least, regardless of how obvious or otherwise it is to you.

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Please don't criticize my training either.
I didn't, don't have a clue about your training.

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If I was hurting her, she would make it clear to me.
That's entirely the point - it sounds like she IS indeed trying to 'make it clear' but you're confused about her signals and discounting the possibility it is indeed her telling you she's hurting. Just because it's not blatantly obvious to you what the message is doesn't mean she's not trying to say it. I do appreciate you're not likely doing it knowingly & that your vet apparently gave you the go ahead, etc.

By all means, don't just take my word for it(or anyone else who knows & cares, who will likely say the same) but don't just blindly take your vet's word for it either if you care about your horses. There are some good studies out there on this subject. One good one that you can find online is from Dr Deb Bennett @ http://www.equinestudies.org/ranger_..._2008_pdf1.pdf
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post #13 of 60 Old 06-29-2012, 01:07 PM Thread Starter
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With her back, it was a one time thing. She was in the same pasture as her yearling and he plays too rough. It could have been from that too. Yesterday I rode her and didn't have a single problem. I even took extra time to make sure I wasn't hurting her. I don't think her back was the main problem. I just don't think that she likes working sometimes. I didn't start riding her when I did because my vet okay-ed it. That's how I wanted to train her. I'm sorry if no one likes it. That's what I prefer doing. Just because they're being started young doesn't mean they won't be able to be sound.
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A four-year-old horse that has been under saddle for two years and is still very green....I would say she has a ton of holes in her training and would probably benefit from some time with a professional trainer.
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She has your number. She puts her head in the air because she can. Same with leaving when she sees the tack. Horses often blow their belly up when being cinched and you are doing it the correct way by walking her until she deflates.Use a knotted halter and teach her to lower her head. There are lots of vids on youtube. When next she walk off when you approach with tack, set the saddle down, keep the halter/bridle in your left elbow and start walking her down. When she stops, you stop for 10 seconds then shoo her (like chickens) to get her moving again. Keep doing this until she will allow you to approach. If you do this each time she starts to walk away she will realize there is no point. It may take a few days or more.
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A four-year-old horse that has been under saddle for two years and is still very green....
Just want to point out..

Horses learn at their own pace, nothing wrong with that..

But I do agree about there being holes in the mare's training.

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Just a few questions

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She was in the same pasture as her yearling and he plays too rough
By "her" yearling, do you mean you started her at a year and a half, then bred her at 2, and the yearling is her colt(gelding I hope)?

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I didn't start riding her when I did because my vet okay-ed it. That's how I wanted to train her. I'm sorry if no one likes it. That's what I prefer doing. Just because they're being started young doesn't mean they won't be able to be sound.
So you started her really young because you felt like it, not because she was ready or your vet approved?

Starting very young has been linked to future soundness issues. The last bones to "close" are those in a horses back, which in a saddle horse are the most vunerable to the stress of weight carrying. Riding a horse that is a year and a half, the knees arn't even closed yet, never mind the back, which is years away from being mature.

I think it is probably a combination of two things causing her to not like her tack. She could very well be sore. As with humans, back problems often dont just go away on their own, so the one time issue could still be causing pain.

Also its fairly likely that she is on the lazy side and thinks she can get away with it.
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By "her" yearling, do you mean you started her at a year and a half, then bred her at 2, and the yearling is her colt(gelding I hope)?


Just to clear the yearling thing up (I'm friends with xVannaIsLifex), it was an accidental breeding by a stupid BO, she moved her horse out of that barn ASAP. The yearling was gelded as soon as he could be.
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Professional trainer? First of all, I can't afford that. My grandmother, who pays for my horses, just manages to afford my two horses. Second of all, I find that very offensive. I work really hard with my horses and I've always wanted to be a trainer. When she was a year and a half, I rode her bareback, at a walk, for ten to twenty minutes. I did that about once of twice a week. I would never push her too hard. Saddlebag, I'll try that if she starts acting that way again. After yesterday, it's really seeming like she's just lazy and didn't want to work.
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Well, you know best luv. Don't consider listening to anyone else then.
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