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post #1 of 9 Old 01-26-2008, 02:47 PM Thread Starter
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My Horse Is Jealous?

Ok I have a 2 10 year old geldings and one 32 year old Gelding....The problem is...the 10 year old "Freckles", just moved on to our farm about 7 months ago, and the other 10 year old "Popper" has been here for about 4 years...I haven't ridden them all winter, but one day went down to feed them all (they are all in the same pasture)....Freckles reared up at me in the pasture and wouldn't even let me put the food down, so from then on a fed him outside the gate...Today I went down to see how the sheep were doing, because they're lambing and i went on the outside of the gates, where the horses are...i called over freckles and he wouldn't even let popper get within 5 feet of the gate....he kicked and flaired at him also, but he seems to want attention, but when i try to get in the gate, he rears at me.. how do i stop this awful behavior before it gets out of hand? also some background information, he started getting out of hand in the saddle right before winter, and he really likes to take people on run aways, but that has always been him, but the aggressiveness is new? what should i do to correct him? sometimes he almost seems like he doesn't know what he wants either?
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post #2 of 9 Old 01-26-2008, 07:39 PM
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That sounds like a really dangerous situation. If he was a baby I might let it pass..once, but he is old enough to know better. As soon as weather permits he needs lots of gound work and some respect training. You might check out Clinton Andersons gaining respect on the ground if you are new to horse training. In the mean time I wouldn't go out into the pasture without a lead rope or a dressage whip. You need to go into his area with Attitude Don't let him come near you unless you ask him to. He needs to learn to stay out of your space or I fear you will get hurt. He really needs to get some respect for you. Hope you get lots of responses to this, there are some really great horse people on here. Stay safe :)
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post #3 of 9 Old 01-26-2008, 08:49 PM
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I agree he souunds like hes lost alot of respect for you. As far as acting that way to the other horses, its sounds like a dominance thing.

It would seem that beacuse you didnt show him your boss when he first did it and instead persisted to stay out of the paddock afterwards that he has learnt this now is an effective way to 'control' you, and have some dominance over you.

As suggested i would take a dressage wip or lead. Usually i dont like to suggest that but i do think it might be nessisary in you case to help you out. As soon as you come up to the gate if he comes up shoo him away, dont let him come up to you unless you want him to. You shouldnt need to hit him, just wave the wip/lead and use a stern voice. I usually use a very growly voise, far different to how i normally speak even when im angry, and say ' get out of it ' .

You will proberly also have to work on ground handleing and respect exercises to he learns to not invaid your space and be aggresive.

As the rearing at you is a very serious issue it may be best to get someone experienced who can help you in person, so they can oversee the whole situation and give you guidence as you go.

Good luck. :)
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post #4 of 9 Old 01-26-2008, 11:15 PM
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i would also take a whip with you. i always like to use a lunge whip so you can have the sound effect of cracking it. i find them the most useful for dealing with angry horses.

i think you need to spend some time on ground work with the aggressive one. get back to basics and build a friendship with your horse based on boundaries and respect and you may find things will settle down. dont put yourself in any danger to work with him though. if you find you cant work with him then you will need a trainer or someone who can help you take him in hand

good luck and stay safe

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post #5 of 9 Old 01-27-2008, 12:06 PM Thread Starter
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thanks for all of your help, I think i'll try with the whip, oh and another thing how do you train a horse to lung, all the other horses already know how but this one, was never taught...i don't want to mess him up and more than he is . any other help will be appreciated.
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thanks for all your help any other help would be appreciated...
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post #7 of 9 Old 01-27-2008, 02:41 PM
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sorry cant help you there, I don't lunge my horses. There are plenty that do, so hopefully someone will step up. I just do yielding exercises on a lead rope and so far thats all they have needed. Fingers crossed thats all they will ever need
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post #8 of 9 Old 01-27-2008, 06:34 PM
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i know what your going through last winter Junior had some issues like that. We found out cold weather gets him angry but last winter he chased people and bit them and drug one person across the field. Talk about anger management. Well basically it was a dominance thing. He thought he was boss. haha now you may think this is cruel but its not. I whiped the living daylights out of him any time he showed me mean/angry behavior. Now he's a sweet little angel lol he knows who's boss now and he don't mess with us anymore. So basically you just show him who's boss and let him know your leader of the pack and if it takes fighting him so to speak to make him respect you then do it. Don't worry he's not gonna start hating you he will respect and eventually start caring for you. I know at times i thought my horse hated me but it was just him starting to respect me and then i showed him love and he actually started caring for me along side with that.

well i hope everything works out for you.
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post #9 of 9 Old 02-05-2008, 12:59 PM
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i would agree that this is a dominance issue, the arrival of a new horse has changed the herd dynamics of the field, and the horse that has become aggressive to you is just challenging your dominance in "his" territory.
in my fields even my stallion knows that if i am in the field i am the boss and will not challenge my authority over mares, food or anything.

i would say that you need to show not exactly aggression, but not fear. remain calm, a whip is a good idea, send him away. think about it, if he challenged the herd leader by rearing or kicking or entering their personal space the heard leader would retaliate, and put the horse in it's place. the ponies will work out their own new heirachy for themself's, but in the field you must be the herd leader.
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