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    06-10-2011, 04:09 PM
  #1
Foal
Angry My horse just wont GO...

I have a saddlebred and he is the most stubborn horse ever. He hasnt been ridden for about 2 years but he was broke, not sure now. I get on him and he just stands there... does NOTHING! He does everyting else but when I get on I get no response whatsoever.
     
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    06-10-2011, 04:22 PM
  #2
Showing
How much training do you have? The horse could be trained just fine, but you don't know the right commands to ask him to move out.

Horses are rarely stubborn 'just because'. He has a reason, and you need to figure it out.
     
    06-10-2011, 04:34 PM
  #3
Showing
Great post, SR - OP, how much experience do you have riding? Does your saddle fit the horse - ie checked over by a saddle fitter? What type of bit are you using?
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    06-10-2011, 04:40 PM
  #4
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If horse wasn't ridden for 2 years I'd start it VERY slowly (with some groundwork and lunging first). And may be introducing a trainer to the equation would be helpful too.
     
    06-10-2011, 04:47 PM
  #5
Showing
Thanks, JDI.

Horses do not think like humans. They're not being deliberately stupid, stubborn, or disrespectful. There's always a reason, and it's usually because the human isn't trained well enough to ask the horse correctly, the animal needs remedial training, there's something going on physiologically with the animal, and/or a combination of all three.
     
    06-10-2011, 05:37 PM
  #6
Foal
I never said my horse was supid or disrespectful nor did I say that I am an expert rider I am asking what I am doing wrong and I DO know how to make a horse go
     
    06-10-2011, 05:44 PM
  #7
Showing
I never said you indicated he was stupid or disrespectful, but you DID say he was stubborn. Which I'm telling you he has a reason for, and you need to figure out what it is.

We can give you ideas for what it MIGHT be, but not being there physically, we don't have a clue.

If you don't have the experience to figure it out, then you need professional help. It could be any number of things ranging from your inexperience, him needing his teeth done, him needing remedial training, or even a bad saddle fit.

If you're expecting a bunch of random strangers to magically give you the right answer, sorry, it doesn't work that way.
     
    06-10-2011, 05:57 PM
  #8
Started
I'm with JDI and SR. If he is refusing to move forward, he is either physically uncomfortable doing so, or confused about what you are asking. If you know how to get a green horse to move forward, then the former scenario is more likely. If you rule out all pain/discomfort, then he is probably confused, either not understanding your cue or not properly taught in the first place.

Assuming that you are asking correctly, if the horse is refusing to move forward there is probably a physical reason - something is making forward movement uncomfortable. Double and triple check saddle fit, ideally having some very experienced, preferably trained saddle fitting eyes take a look. The saddle tree may be ok, but, if we're talking an English saddle, the panels may need reflocked. Is the saddle pad appropriate? Thick enough to do its job, but not so thick as to affect saddle fit? Other things to look in to in terms of horse comfort are chiropractic issues or joint stiffness.

Once all physical pain has been ruled out, it's time to critically assess your riding. Horses 100% reflect what the rider is doing; be sure that your seat is allowing the horse to come forward, your hands are not blocking him, etc. Squeeze with your legs, give a verbal backup (a cluck or a "walk on", etc.), and if those don't get him moving back up the cues with a tap from a crop, dressage whip, or mecate popper, whatever your preference. Don't kick or spur, as that will simply lift the ribcage, stiffen him up, and make him dead-er to your leg.

As KV said, 2 years off is a good while. Take it slow. I recommend making sure that he has solid gas, brakes, and steering on the lunge and in hand. That'll refresh his memory if he was trained once, and will expose any gaps in his training that need fixing.
     

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