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post #1 of 14 Old 11-21-2010, 05:34 PM Thread Starter
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Red face My horse is over-flexing!

Hey there,
I have a 4 year old Paint gelding. I am having a problem with my horses headset. The woman that had him before I purchased him REALLY over-flexed him. I was wondering if there is anyway to train him to stop doing this. Is it a bad habit? Or something that he is going to do for the rest of his life?? I really need help! Please

~this is my little brother on him at the county fair..
*please dont critique my brother, just the horse* Thanks
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post #2 of 14 Old 11-21-2010, 05:46 PM
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What type of bit is he in? You could possibly try a milder bit. Does he do it all the time? Or just at the halt? Either way when he goes to do it, try and reach your arms forward so there is a loop in the reins so you have no contact. My friends pony used to do it in the canter so she just put her hands up and made him go around and eventually he stopped.

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post #3 of 14 Old 11-21-2010, 06:06 PM
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Unless you can teach him that the bit doesnt hurt, he is gonna continue to did it. Look at him in the picture, mough gaping. He is very afraid of the bit(from his previous owners cruel hands). Alot of mental damage has been done. You will have to ride him with the least amount of pressure possible.
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post #4 of 14 Old 11-21-2010, 06:11 PM
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as tight as the riens are he has no choice but to flex to relieve pressure.
So this picture may not be a good example as he is doing what he is told to do.
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He does it all the time, I have even tried a hackamore on him and he still does it.. and he will do it when you ask for a halt, whether the reins are tight or loose, any time you make a slight contact with the reins. I know that this is NOT the best picture of him in the world...

and yes the reins are tight... we are working with my brother on keeping them loose!

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post #6 of 14 Old 11-21-2010, 06:56 PM
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teach him how to stop using your seat instead of your riens
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post #7 of 14 Old 11-21-2010, 07:25 PM
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Try using seat and command rather than reins to stop him, he should already be able to do this. Also you might want to have his teeth checked, he could be doing it to get away from a painful mouth.

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post #8 of 14 Old 11-21-2010, 09:34 PM
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I agree, have his teeth checked out, as well as his mouth. Make sure the bit isn't hurting any part of his mouth, and that it fits his mouth good. He's at the age where he could be losing some teeth. I'm also in agreement for teaching your horse to stop using your seat, body language, and maybe some verbal cues, rather than your reins.
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post #9 of 14 Old 11-22-2010, 12:07 AM
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the photo isn't good for judgeing becuase the rein is too tight, so he must flex to there. I know, I know, U said not to critique your bro.

Anyway, Was he trained western orginally.? Did they do the thing where all they want is for the horse to flex at the poll, (the more the better) and do the yank, snap, yank, snap to keep reminding him to keep it there? If so, then he is rewarded when he puts his head in that "behind the bit" position. This is hard to untrain. Much easier to train a stargazer to come down than a rolltight to unroll. When they come behind the bit like that , you lose control.

Start riding him on really loose contact when you can , however, when you do ask him to stop (and use your seat and voice as much as possible), do not release him if all he does is roll his head up and stay leaned onto his front legs. Ask him to actually back up and lift his head and give in his whole body, not just break at the neck and still be leaning forward. When he lifts his head, even it it's to toss it, and gives with his whole body (shoulder raise, he steps vigourously back and you feel him rock back onto his haunches) you DROP the reins to his neck . . total release.

This and training him to reach downward and forward at the walk. I actually have my horse trained to reach down if I kind of tickle the rein and say, "Down". He loves it.

Four is really young and for him to go all scrunched up like this for a long time is really detrimental to his physcial development. I hope you will bag the showing for awhile and work on getting him happy , forward and stretched out.
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post #10 of 14 Old 11-22-2010, 05:59 AM
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if he over bends slightly raise your hands to encourage him to relax and lengthen his neck (:

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