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post #21 of 24 Old 09-29-2010, 04:24 PM
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You are right on track as to what I would do Kay26. That's how I trained my filly to tie. It takes more time and patience, but those two things IMO are the keys to training.

Join-up is a way to bond with the horse. Monty Roberts teaches it in his book. If you have a round pen, turn the horse loose in it. You stand in the middle and get the horse to run around you. Keep your body facing the horse, as, this is confrontational to them. In the wild, to punish a horse, the alpha mare keeps them out of the herd. She faces them, and won't let them come in until she is ready. So, you keep the horse going around the pen, it doesn't have to be at a gallop the whole time, she can trot or even walk. Her inside ear will be on you if she is listening to you. Right now, you are the alpha mare, and you are keeping her out of your herd. Horses natural tendency is to be with others, so she will naturally want to be with you.

Don't let her turn and face you or stop until you are ready. You can make her change directions a few times if you want. If she starts to submit to you, she will lick her lips, open and close her mouth. That is a very good sign. When you feel like you want her back in the herd, turn sideways, so you are not facing her(confronting her). She will slow down and stop. (I personally did this with a very nervous gelding, and people couldn't catch him in the field, but I was able to walk up and pet him after this in the round pen and calmly get a halter on him.)

Of course, just brushing her, talking to her, and loving on her will give you a good bond with her too. For her tieing problem, I would start from the beginning. Tie her in a 'safe zone'. A place where you know she is comfortable. Groom her, pet her, love her. Make it a pleasent expierence. This method however, takes more time and patience than the previous methods, but personally, I think it is worth it. Anyway, the next day, move her a little farther (as little as a mere few feet, or where you think she can handle without freaking out) from where she was tied previosuly. Don't even tie her, just wrap the rope around another sturdy pole. Groom her, make it a pleasent expeirence again. Spend as many days as you think necessary until she it totally relaxed there. Then, move her even a little farther away. And, each day, you will be growing a stonger bond with her, so she will worry less and less about the other horses.

Eventually, it may take up to even a month, with the same process of gradually tieing her farther and farther from her safe zone, you will be able to tie her anywhere without causing pain and fear, she will have way more trust in you.

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post #22 of 24 Old 09-30-2010, 01:15 PM
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My mare had a horrible tying problem. She would pull back and sit on her butt for a long time just keeping tension on the lead until it snapped.

I finally set her up with a nylon shipping halter (nearly impossible to break) and bought a rope from Home Depot that was strong enough to tow 1400 lbs. Tied her to a hitching post that was made of steel and cemented into the ground.

She was not breaking that set up for anything. Took four or five freak outs before she realize it wouldn't break. I tried to make her pull back but "scaring her". I'd snap the whip a couple times in the air, turn on the hose so it make a loud popping noise, whip some plastic bags around, etc. She made a fuss at first but now nothing makes her pull back.

Someone at the barn got a flat tire last week as they pulled up and it popped loud enough to freak out the humans but my girl stood tied to her post no problem.

Just gotta stick with it.
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post #23 of 24 Old 09-30-2010, 10:55 PM
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had a appaloosa, wonderful horse, except for this one issue of pulling off when tied also. he broke 2 halters, and pulled a piece of wall off a barn once and yank a gate bending it and pulling it off hinges too.
we were advised to put him on cross ties that could not be broke or moved. so we put in some huge heavy posts, concreted this in, and added the chains to each post. the chains come across just enough to hold the halter rings (no slack, or dip in chains). we had to have a parachute cord halter made for this horse, as the ordinary halter would not hold to his pulling back/off on it.
when he tried to pull off on this, he couldn't get to the sit position, couldn't go forward, and couldn't go backwards either. we were advised to leave him tied there for a couple hours the first day and then to tie him to the cross ties every day for an hour to stand. sure more pulling off events from him. during his time on the cross ties, we were to do all his grooming/bathing/farrier needs etc. he learned really quick he couldn't really move much and thus learned not to do much moving when said and done.

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post #24 of 24 Old 10-01-2010, 01:37 PM
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I use youngster started having tantrums at about the age of 2 ........she tried it twice and stopped.

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