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    09-08-2011, 05:37 PM
  #1
Foal
My horse shows food aggression

Hi, Im new here, im Hollie and my horse is a black arabian gelding "keboe" ,,,, my isuue is he is a 5 year old BIG BABY !! He is in your pocket SWEET !! Very personable and loves attention from people, the kind of guy who runs up to you nickering asking for attention, BUT......hes a jeckyl and hide , he will not hesitate to get mad if he doesnt get what he wants which generally is food, now....hes a one horse herd, no other horses around, im thinking he is testing out his waters on me thinking he is higher on this pecking order... if he wants my bannanna, or gatorade, or anything I have and I tell him no, he will pin his ears, turn his butt and threaten to kick me, problem im having is I know how fast they can turn and kick and im not sure whats the best way to approach this situation, this morning when I grained him he actually stodd blocking the stall door so I could not get out, he had his ears pinned and made it plainly obviouse I was not to try walking out or moving.... being not prepared, I was holding only his empty can of grain and no way out, if I were to try to repremend him, he would have turned his honches pinning me against the wall..... he does not take no or any type of firmness well, he's like a spoiled kid whos not afraid to bad talk....being as he's 5 times my size and weight and strength I must be carefull how I handle this situation, any and all advice would be soooo appreciated ...being born and raised around horses my entire life, iv never encounterd a situation like this, and have no idea how to approach it... He will literally chase and hunt me down if I am carrying anything of interest to him, wether its my cell phone, or a sandwhich, or a pair of sunglasses.....
     
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    09-08-2011, 05:58 PM
  #2
Yearling
Wow, you're right, he's decided that he's head honcho.
Next time you go out the barn carry a crop, and DO NOT be afraid to use it. That is TERRIBLE behavior, and I'm sure you love him very much but you need to get it through his head that you're the leader and for him to never even THINK about acting like that again.
     
    09-08-2011, 06:06 PM
  #3
Foal
Yea, I really do love him so much, its CRAZY!!! I about cry when I have to repremend him and it makes it hard for me to sleep at night =( , but I do know your right I must get the upper hand in his pecking order and soon !! He makes it so hard to get mad at him when he's so sweet at other times , he's so darn fast to turn his butt it really leaves me no space or time to get that whip and snap it , But ill definitely take the whip with me tonight at feeding time and try my best to be one step ahead of his game, then ill come inside and cry my eyes out, lol.... I never use the whip on him, I just hold it and snap it with a firm yell "NO !!!" but I must be boss before he ends up hurting me or someone else =(
     
    09-08-2011, 06:20 PM
  #4
Yearling
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Originally Posted by Keboe    
yea, I really do love him so much, its CRAZY!!! I about cry when I have to repremend him and it makes it hard for me to sleep at night =( , but I do know your right I must get the upper hand in his pecking order and soon !! He makes it so hard to get mad at him when he's so sweet at other times , he's so darn fast to turn his butt it really leaves me no space or time to get that whip and snap it , But ill definitely take the whip with me tonight at feeding time and try my best to be one step ahead of his game, then ill come inside and cry my eyes out, lol.... I never use the whip on him, I just hold it and snap it with a firm yell "NO !!!" but I must be boss before he ends up hurting me or someone else =(
Don't even wait for him to get that close to you. As soon as he starts walking up to you uninvited wave that whip around, yell "NO!", just make a big deal about it so he knows you're serious.

Believe me, he'll still be that sweet horse, but he'll have so much more respect for you.

But I will say, that if he does try to kick/bite or even pins his ears at you DON'T be afraid to smack him with that crop/whip. He can seriously injure you, and being smacked with a crop/whip will surprise him more than anything.
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    09-08-2011, 06:31 PM
  #5
Green Broke
You'll sleep well after he gives you a head injury & you'll cry a lot harder after he actually kicks you. Sorry to sound mean but it's the truth.

If he is threatening to kick you you had better learn to use a whip on him & mean it. I'd use a lunge whip, a crop would have you too close to him.

I would put a tub of grain or something, on the ground & stand over it. When he approached in an aggressive manner, yes, I would crack him a good one. He'll be surprised & may kick out at you so be prepared for that. He may even test you a few times. When he finally stands back & looks at you step away from the food & invite him in. He may be hesitant to approach you but that is what you want. He should ask to come in, not demand.

I know you love him but he doesn't care about that. He wants to be the boss over you & so far he has been. He knows he can intimidate you. Show him that he can't. It's called getting his respect. He won't hold a grudge long & your relationship will be better for it.
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    09-08-2011, 06:38 PM
  #6
Showing
When you approach his stall with only part of what you usually feed, watch his behaviour. He will ramp up his behaviour when he sees you are not delivering his feed. When he does, turn and walk away a few feet. Your back will be partly turned toward him so you can watch him. He may even get frantic because now he is completely confused. Only when he moves to the far side of the stall should you put just a little feed in there and stay very close to your escape. He will eat this up in short order and want more. Repeat waiting until he's at the back wall. Horses need this repeated 2-4 times to realize that feed comes only when it is standing quietly at the back of the stall. You may have to wait a while before he moves back the first time as it will be just happenstance but that is when you want to reward him. I had a pasture mare that took to banging on a large gate. As I approached the banging began so I turned my back to her and walked away. She too reacted in confusion. Finally she started walking away so I returned to feed her. It took only two times for her to learn. After that she'd always walk away. This method resolves the issue without having to hit the horse.
     
    09-08-2011, 06:40 PM
  #7
Foal
Alright, that's what I thought to, but I really wanted to get some advice first to to make absolute sure I was not handlng it the wrong way and doing more harm.. So, tonight at feeding time, I will take that advice, I definitely do not need a 1000 pound animal bullying me or anyone near him for sure, Thanks for the input, =)
     
    09-08-2011, 06:45 PM
  #8
Green Broke
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Originally Posted by Saddlebag    
When you approach his stall with only part of what you usually feed, watch his behaviour. He will ramp up his behaviour when he sees you are not delivering his feed. When he does, turn and walk away a few feet. Your back will be partly turned toward him so you can watch him. He may even get frantic because now he is completely confused. Only when he moves to the far side of the stall should you put just a little feed in there and stay very close to your escape. He will eat this up in short order and want more. Repeat waiting until he's at the back wall. Horses need this repeated 2-4 times to realize that feed comes only when it is standing quietly at the back of the stall. You may have to wait a while before he moves back the first time as it will be just happenstance but that is when you want to reward him. I had a pasture mare that took to banging on a large gate. As I approached the banging began so I turned my back to her and walked away. She too reacted in confusion. Finally she started walking away so I returned to feed her. It took only two times for her to learn. After that she'd always walk away. This method resolves the issue without having to hit the horse.
Yes, this is the ideal way for an impatient horse but the horse in question is already aggressive even after he gets his food & any time he thinks the OP may have something he wants.
     
    09-08-2011, 06:47 PM
  #9
Foal
You guys really have some great advice for sure !! And I completely agree with what everyone here has said, ..... For me, I got out of horses 10 years ago when my children were young, and just recently got a horse again 2 weeks ago and getting back into it, being born and raised around horses has definitely not been like riding a bicycle again, I have forgotten so much and lost so much over the past 10 years, iv never delt with a horse like this before, so this is all new to me, I will admit I feel like a newbie and kinda stupid, but I sure hope to be able to pick it all back up again and enjoy them like I use to.,,,your advice has been a GREAT help and I plan to use everyones ideas this evening at feeding time =)
     
    09-08-2011, 07:03 PM
  #10
Foal
Natisha, that's true, even after he has his food, he's like the pit bull growling at you to stay away from him, and even when I walk into the field with something as simple as a cell phone, he's not afraid to step on me, knock me over what ever it takes to get my phone, one time he even came up behind me and wrapped his neck around my waist and curled around my like a python strangle trying to get my bannanna, "this was my very first incident with him " the day I found out he was having some issues with being needy for stuff......I will admit I have gotten after him and took the crop to him a few times and yelled "NO" when I seen him starting to come for my phone, ....and that's when the ears went back and butt turned, I really don't like making him out to sound like a visciouse animal cause he's really not, he's a real love, and he loves attention and people......its just when he wants what he wants, he intends to get them like a spoiled child....im fine as long as my hands are empty, aarrgghhhh ....He is NOT afraid of a whip or crop, and to be honest he's not afraid of anything at all, nothing scares or bothers him, he's the kind to walk right into a snapping whip and not care at all, the kind of horse you could let a firecracker off next to him and hed not flinch a bit........ I was thinking I would call a few trainers and see if maybe I should put him thru some seriouse training with somebody more knowledgable in cases like this, I know I wont give up on him, he's my diamond in the rough =)
     

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