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post #1 of 35 Old 03-20-2012, 07:02 PM Thread Starter
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My horse will NOT stop!

I'm sure you've all seen this post or something similar to it on here. But here it is again. I bought a TWH about 10 days ago. He is 18 years old. He is very calm and gentle on ground. But when you get on him he goes crazy and just tries to keep running and running and running and it's hard to stop him. He is gaited and I can't keep him in his running walk either. He uses a slow twisted snaffle type bit and I ride him english. Any suggestions on how to 1. stop him and 2. keep him in his gait. Thanks!
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post #2 of 35 Old 03-20-2012, 07:29 PM
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Does his saddle fit him properly? Have you checked his back for signs of soreness? Have his teeth been checked? He is ridden in a slow twist snaffle, how soft are your hands, do you have good feel and timing? What do you know about his previous training? Did you get to see anyone else ride him before you bought him? Did you get to try riding him before you bought him? These are just a few things to consider if you haven't already.

You have only had him for 10 days, so he is new to you, maybe his previous owners used a saddle that didn't fit him, so even if your saddle does fit him now, he could still have pain from before or he could be remembering the pain of a poorly fitted saddle and expect pain now, so it could be habit from trying to escape the pain of the saddle. Same thing with the bit, if his previous owners never had his teeth checked and he has been in pain or if they were heavy handed. Maybe he isn't as well trained as you thought. Maybe he has been ridden very badly in the past.

I have no experience with gaited horses, so I can't help you out with that, sorry.

If you can think of anything here that might make sense of why he is behaving this way, let us know, there are a lot of people on here with some great ideas that can help you out.
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Did you ride him before you bought him? If he was well behaved then, then I would assume it is a new thing that developed after you bought him. Probably just him getting used to you. With consistency, that will change.

However, if you did not ride him before you bought him, you may have bought yourself someone else's problem horse. Getting a gaited horse to gait again after they have been allowed to pace for a long period of time is a difficult thing to do, takes a lot of patience, and a lot of skill.

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post #4 of 35 Old 03-20-2012, 08:12 PM
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Ditto to the other posters.

You didn't say if you rode him before you bought him 10 days ago.

And you didn't say how YOUR timing is as the rider. I always look to the rider, before faulting the horse. Are you "giving up" on him before you make him stop? Because if you try to stop him, he doesn't, so you quit asking and let him get away with it, you are just escalating the problem. It doesn't have to turn into a fight, but ultimately, you need to "win" the stopping argument each and every single time.

You shouldn't even be taking him faster than a walk at this point, if you can't even stop him from the walk. Do one thing at a time. Work on stopping from the walk first, and master that first.

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I think other posters have made some very valid input, considering we have no details, aside from you only having had the horse 10 days & you use a twisted bit. As much info as you can provide that you think could be relevant will help.

My advice would to first & foremost have him & his gear thoroughly checked out to rule out/treat any physical issues, such as teeth, bit, neck, back, saddle, hoof... pain. Give him a fair bit of time to get over any of these issues before attempting to start riding him again.

Especially if he needs time off being ridden anyway, I would put some time into developing a good relationship with him on the ground first. Calm & gentle is a good start, but I like to ensure I have a good willing relationship & communication going on the ground before getting on a horse these days generally. I would ensure he understands well how to yield to pressure in a variety of ways, including *gentle* rein signals.

When it comes to getting on him, ensuring nothing's going to hurt him is a start, so I'd throw away that bit in favour of a bitless bridle, especially if he's had any mouth/bit issues, or at very least, a double jointed smooth bit or such. Then I'd start 'riding' but only in baby steps. Eg. see how he is with you getting into mounting position & if he's not good with it, don't go further until he is. Mount but dismount immediately, before he can get upset. Mount & ask him to just stand there. Etc, etc. In other words, reinforce what you get & only ask for 'harder' stuff after he masters the easier steps.

Oh & stick to a smallish enclosed area for now, so you can safely *ask* him to respond to you & persevere gently without having to attempt to force him or worry about him running away with you.

I'm not experienced with gaited horses, but I would suggest you get the basics going well before worrying about that sort of thing.
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Have you tried turning into tight circles when he stops listening? Or push him, and push him HARD. If he doesn't listen or respect you yet, make that happen. At least one poster (in different thread) mentioned running their horse an extra 5-10 minutes after they showed sign of wanting to stop, thus meaning that stopping was a reward not a luxury. :)

Good luck. Stopping has to be one of the most important things that a horse should know. :)

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post #7 of 35 Old 03-20-2012, 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ButterfliEterna View Post
At least one poster (in different thread) mentioned running their horse an extra 5-10 minutes after they showed sign of wanting to stop, thus meaning that stopping was a reward not a luxury.
I would disagree with this thought process because I have had several horses that could RUN MILES upon MILES and never get tired. And still not want to stop.

You've got to teach them to stop because it is the correct thing to do to listen to you as the rider. In my opinion, you teach the horse nothing to "stop only when it's tired". They need to stop with no questions asked at any time. Period.
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Just work on circles, circles, and more circles, did I mention circles? Try figure eights also. :)
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I had a horse that was hard to stop. We worked him pretty hard in the round pen and he was a LOT more willing to LISTEN and LEARN what was being asked when he was tired and stopping was a reward for him LOL. He was a load easier to stop the next time i rode him.

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post #10 of 35 Old 03-21-2012, 08:38 AM
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I think when it was suggested to lope a horse for a few min longer it was for a young horse in training that was greener and just wasnt listening. Younger horses dont have the stamina mature horses have so there is a difference when that rule should apply or not.
I think as others have said you should restrict the size of the area you ride in until you and the horse understand each other. Get a trainer or the previous owner to come over and help you out. Check your equipment to make sure it fits properly etc. I too hope you rode this horse before you purchased him.
My Uncle had a TB mare that would run for miles, and if you didnt know where her buttons were... would not stop. Some horses have the heart and stamina and require experienced riders.
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