My Horse Won't Longe
 
 

       The Horse Forum > Training Horses > Horse Training

My Horse Won't Longe

This is a discussion on My Horse Won't Longe within the Horse Training forums, part of the Training Horses category
  • Horse won't longe
  • Horse won't go out in round pen, follows

 
LinkBack Thread Tools
    01-15-2009, 02:07 PM
  #1
Foal
Exclamation My Horse Won't Longe

My gaited Spotted Saddle filly, which turns two this year will not move when she's in the roundpen...I free longe and when I go to the middle of the ring she just stands there either looking around or eating grass...when I crack the whip she doesn't do anything I even pop it really close to her and she still doesn't move. I don't know what to do....eventually she'll move, but she'll come running into me and try to knock me down...is there someone that can help me with this?
Thanks in advance
     
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
    01-15-2009, 02:40 PM
  #2
Started
Oh my gosh she is sassy!

Ok here are some suggestions ...

1. Can you use a line or a halter with a long lead? That way you can make her move fwd since you will be close to her ... stay behind her shoulder and be the boss and make her move forward. Even if it is a few steps ...

2. Do you have a horse that she can follow ... we used to turn out baby out with the other horses and she would follow them. Maybe if she sees another horse go in the round pen she will follow ... it's a long shot but maybe?

3. Do you have someone who can go next to her in the round pen? You stand in the middle and have someone else with a halter and lead rope maker her go around?

Did you do a lot of training with her and the lounge whip to make her not scared of it? Lol let us know how it goes! If I think of more ideas ill let you know...
     
    01-15-2009, 03:25 PM
  #3
Trained
Just curious... But WHY do you want to longe her? I never longed either of my QH's. They did the same thing you're girl is doing. They didn't care about the whip and they didn't want to run circles for me.....I honestly never really needed to.

Mine never tried to knock me down though. Perhaps just basic manners and ground work would be better for now. She's just now coming 2 so she may not understand what you want from her.

I'd do lessons in the round pen with just the lead rope and whip as an extension of your hand and getting her to understand when you want her to move her feet. John Lyons has a technique that he calls ........uh....*brain fart*....Anyways, he gets the horse to move it's feet North, South, East and West...Then he practices take offs ( Moving) and landings (stopping where you want the horse to stop)

I've done this with my horses and it was great as bonding time. You'll goof up and laugh and then the horse will goof up. It did wonders for Twister's ground manners and pushy-ness.

I know sometimes that an almost 2 yo looks like a big girl...but don't forget to allow time for the horse's mind to catch up with it's body.

Hope I helped. If you want more info on the Lyon's thing, let me know, I'll go dig up my book.
     
    01-15-2009, 03:51 PM
  #4
Weanling
trie a lung line
     
    01-15-2009, 05:58 PM
  #5
Yearling
Ummm try smacking her with the whip? If she comes towards you smack her on the neck to make her go away. It sounds like you've taught her the whip means nothing, she obviously doesn't respect it, you or your space at all.

Youtube Clinton Anderson Lunging for Respect.
     
    01-15-2009, 09:14 PM
  #6
Green Broke
It sounds like a respect issue. Try using your body language more. You can also keep gently tapping her with the longe whip and keep a steady rythm until she moves out and then instantly stop.

To help build her respect you can play the "yo-yo" game. Have her on a lead rope facing you. Then send energy down the rope by shaking it. Start little and get bigger as you need to. She should back-up. Then have her come back to you. Keep doing that a few times, but not so many that she gets bored.

You can also see if you can move her on the ground by just lightly pushing her to yield to you. The instant she yields stop the pressure you are putting on her.

It takes a lot of young horses a long time to master the concept of lounging so be patient. When she tries to cut back in send her back out with your body language. Lean forward and kinda crouch and stare her down. She'll probably go out on her own, but you may need to encourage her with the whip. Crack it and wave it around, but don't be abusive with her. You may have to tap her, or give her a smart smack, but nothing too severe.

I hope that helps
     
    01-15-2009, 09:40 PM
  #7
Foal
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by kchfuller    
oh my gosh she is sassy!

Ok here are some suggestions ...

1. Can you use a line or a halter with a long lead? That way you can make her move fwd since you will be close to her ... stay behind her shoulder and be the boss and make her move forward. Even if it is a few steps ...

2. Do you have a horse that she can follow ... we used to turn out baby out with the other horses and she would follow them. Maybe if she sees another horse go in the round pen she will follow ... it's a long shot but maybe?

3. Do you have someone who can go next to her in the round pen? You stand in the middle and have someone else with a halter and lead rope maker her go around?

Did you do a lot of training with her and the lounge whip to make her not scared of it? Lol let us know how it goes! If I think of more ideas ill let you know...


Yes, she longes fine with a halter and lead outside of the roundpen, but I just don't understand why she won't free longe.

I've tried longeing her with my 15 year old Quarter Horse gelding that I used to have...at first she'd stand by the gate of the roundpen while he ran around her...after a while he started getting closer and closer to her and tried to get her to run with him so she'd get out of his way...she did follow him and went around the roundpen a few times, but the whole time she was looking for her chance to get safely back to the gate without him plowing into her...sometimes she'd come running straight at me with her neck and head stretched in the air like she wanted to run me over and she would push past me and almost knock me over

I've sacked her out and everything rubbed her with the whip and other things, I guess the problem is she's not scared enough to make her move forward and go...she's so fearless it was more difficult for me to teach her to lead than it was for me to teach my other baby. If you've heard of the "flap your wings like a chiken" thing where you just flap your arms around and let the horse know that's it's your space, they should move out of it....well in her case she didn't mind my elbows one bit, eventually she got the idea though...

Thank you sooo much!!! You have really good advice
     
    01-15-2009, 09:51 PM
  #8
Foal
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumas'_Grrrl    
Just curious... But WHY do you want to longe her? I never longed either of my QH's. They did the same thing you're girl is doing. They didn't care about the whip and they didn't want to run circles for me.....I honestly never really needed to.

Mine never tried to knock me down though. Perhaps just basic manners and ground work would be better for now. She's just now coming 2 so she may not understand what you want from her.

I'd do lessons in the round pen with just the lead rope and whip as an extension of your hand and getting her to understand when you want her to move her feet. John Lyons has a technique that he calls ........uh....*brain fart*....Anyways, he gets the horse to move it's feet North, South, East and West...Then he practices take offs ( Moving) and landings (stopping where you want the horse to stop)

I've done this with my horses and it was great as bonding time. You'll goof up and laugh and then the horse will goof up. It did wonders for Twister's ground manners and pushy-ness.

I know sometimes that an almost 2 yo looks like a big girl...but don't forget to allow time for the horse's mind to catch up with it's body.

Hope I helped. If you want more info on the Lyon's thing, let me know, I'll go dig up my book.

I thought I'd longe her once or twice a week so she could get used to moving her feet and so I could build trust with her, roundup I know it's not good to longe young horses but I don't longe her very often at all and no longer than 10-15 minutes at a time, if that, just to be safe because I don't want to ruin her ligaments or mess anything up and I figured she would like to spend a little time out of her field and afterwards have some nice fresh grass. You do have really good points though, I also thought longeing was part of ground work?
     
    01-15-2009, 09:52 PM
  #9
Foal
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by kershkova    
trie a lung line
She does fine on a longe line, I just want her to learn how to free longe
Thanks
     
    01-15-2009, 10:00 PM
  #10
Foal
Talking

Quote:
Originally Posted by mlkarel2010    
It sounds like a respect issue. Try using your body language more. You can also keep gently tapping her with the longe whip and keep a steady rythm until she moves out and then instantly stop.

To help build her respect you can play the "yo-yo" game. Have her on a lead rope facing you. Then send energy down the rope by shaking it. Start little and get bigger as you need to. She should back-up. Then have her come back to you. Keep doing that a few times, but not so many that she gets bored.

You can also see if you can move her on the ground by just lightly pushing her to yield to you. The instant she yields stop the pressure you are putting on her.

It takes a lot of young horses a long time to master the concept of lounging so be patient. When she tries to cut back in send her back out with your body language. Lean forward and kinda crouch and stare her down. She'll probably go out on her own, but you may need to encourage her with the whip. Crack it and wave it around, but don't be abusive with her. You may have to tap her, or give her a smart smack, but nothing too severe.

I hope that helps

Thanks, yeah I do agree that you should be firm but not too firm because I know of people that have been too firm with their horses and because of it some are headshy or have other problems of shyness and have bad memories and react in bad ways to certain situations
Thank you sooo much!! You're a big help!
     

Quick Reply
Please help keep the Horse Forum enjoyable by reporting rude posts.
Message:
Options

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the The Horse Forum forums, you must first register.

Already have a Horse Forum account?
Members are allowed only one account per person at the Horse Forum, so if you've made an account here in the past you'll need to continue using that account. Please do not create a new account or you may lose access to the Horse Forum. If you need help recovering your existing account, please Contact Us. We'll be glad to help!

New to the Horse Forum?
Please choose a username you will be satisfied with using for the duration of your membership at the Horse Forum. We do not change members' usernames upon request because that would make it difficult for everyone to keep track of who is who on the forum. For that reason, please do not incorporate your horse's name into your username so that you are not stuck with a username related to a horse you may no longer have some day, or use any other username you may no longer identify with or care for in the future.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Old Thread Warning
This thread is more than 90 days old. When a thread is this old, it is often better to start a new thread rather than post to it. However, If you feel you have something of value to add to this particular thread, you can do so by checking the box below before submitting your post.

Thread Tools

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Siard @ work at longe Merel Horse Riding Critique 10 04-17-2008 05:34 PM



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 02:57 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0