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    11-09-2008, 01:18 AM
Question My horse won't stay outta my space

I have a 1 yr old Spotted Saddle Horse filly that likes to nudge ppl really hard and push them off balance with her head, I've read something saying that if you don't want the horse to be in your space you have to flap your arms like a chicken....well....I've tried it and she is the least bit bothered by it....I was wondering if anyone had any other tricks I could try??
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    11-09-2008, 01:25 AM
Use your elbows. Be firm but not mean. Your horse needs to respect your space. You need to be the alpha horse.
    11-09-2008, 01:31 AM
Thanks, I'll try harder
    11-09-2008, 01:52 AM
Use your elbows as in how? Elbow their head, nose, flap arms harder? Sorry I just am trying to get a better picture in my head. Lol
Sorry don't mean to sound dumb.
    11-09-2008, 02:09 AM
Elbow the little bugger when it gets into your space. I usually elbow in the side. A firm "NO" usually accompanies the elbow.
    11-09-2008, 04:20 AM
When my horse nudges me I am more than likely right in front of him and he nudges me with his nose, so to elbow him within 3 seconds means I would have to elbow him in his face. How do you get to his side to elbow him in the correct amount of time when you have been nudged off balance while directly in front of a horse?
    11-09-2008, 05:00 AM
I am by no means a pro at this, BUT as I have found, while doing ground work with a lead rope, if a horse has gotten in my space, I will do as excactly as walks into me, violates 'my space', I will smoothly and firmly press my elbow against his/het lower neck creating a point of pressure on him/her. When the exit my space, I will remove said elbow pressure, and she knows what I want (just like simple early training). I have an 1100lb horse, and by god she sure thinks I am bigge rthan she is! (well, she stays off of my space at least!)

Just a suggestion...
    11-09-2008, 05:38 AM
As far as the pushing goes, Ruby NEVER did this...untill I tought her to "kiss". Then she was ALWAYS pushing her nose on people...(looking for a treat). Well, I started patting her (not quite a slap, but a firm push on her nose - pushing her away) with a firm distinkt vocal command. Ie, away, back, ect... I used "rape". Not only are there 2 'hard' constinents in the word, along with a strong vowel, making the command quite easy to sound firm...but bystanders also found humor in it. She saw me as being firm and disliking her actions (unwanted nose pushing) not to mention unkowing bystanders chuckling ( I belive that a a horse can feel humiliation, amongst other simple feelings). With all of these factors, within a few days, Ruby would still kiss on command, but would never push herself on you("rape" you)!

My suggestion... In the corse of you being by your horse, when she pushes you - push back. Be firm, but NOT mean. Let her know that you are the boss. It's your space, and you're going to keep it...until you invite her in(save that for a bit later). If she pushes you - push back. Like I said, push her away and say in a very firm voice "back", "away" or "no" or whatever you choose (be consistant though -pick one and go with it). Use a firm voice. Don't be afraid to use a firm, gruff voice (don't holler or scare her), but be firm. Angle your eybrows inwards towards your nose and wrinkle your forhead, stick your chest out and tence up while you say that. <pause while you silently try that...........> (feels goofy, but it works!) Moments later - when she goes away- resume being nice to her like you normally would (after 3 seconds, a horse forgets what was going on....don't dwell on the situation). If she's being good, tell her she's a "pretty pony" or "a good girl", or whatever you may normally say to her. This tells her 'he this is my space. I love you and all, but dag gone it, you will respect me."
    11-09-2008, 08:31 AM
I have several things I do depending on the situation.

My version of the "chicken wing" is if my back is to the horse, and they simply come into my space, (i wll try to explain as best I can) put your thumbs under your arm pits with your elbows out straight. While walking backwards agressivle move your elbows backwards and forwards. Yes, you may bump into the horse with your back or your elbows, but the horse will back up. I do that to simply move them if they have simply come into my space.

If the horse agressivle comes up behind me or agressivle pushes with their head, I will kick back striking them in the chest. And before anyone starts thinking how cruel that is, the way we humans are made, we don't have that much power kicking backwards like that. So trust me, Flicka in the pasture will be kicking Beauty in the chest a heck of a lot harder than you ever will and they survive. I will rythmically kick 3 times. This is a move the horse understands, because it is what another horse would do to say "your in my space...get out". Remeber the whole key to the horses respect is you being the what the leaders do.

One other thing I like to do is use my hand on their nose. Put the grove made by your thumb and first finger over the bridge of their nose, about where a hackamore would rest. You will feel the edges on each side of the bridge of the nose. There is a nerve that runs down each side. Alternate the pressure from your tumb knuckle and finger knuckle back and forth while gently pushing on the nose. Cont pressure until the horse takes a step back. This is a simple thing you can practice on anytime, and when you need to back the horse up you can easily back them up for any reason with little pressure on their face.
    11-09-2008, 10:34 AM
Thanks everyone!!!!

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