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    08-17-2012, 05:06 PM
  #21
Foal
Realize what your horse may be

Hi,

I didn't read everything everyone posted on the topic of trying to stop your horse, but I will offer my experience with a extremely fast and dangerous barrel horse.

She had been previously run on barrels by owners, and I did not know those owners so couldn't tell you more about her background. The only thing I knew for sure is that she was extremely smart, and when you climbed on you had better be ready to run. If not, she would crow hop, buck, rear, you name it.

We tried every training metod we could think of to get her to slow down. We even brought in a trainer to work with her. We tried starting at the walk (she did this very well....and whoa'd well from here)..ground manners were excellent....lunging came along wonderfully. BUT...the riding never changed.

The trainer recommended that I either take her to the barrel race and race her (and she would win!) or to sell her to an experienced barrel racer who could put her to good use.

I wanted to race her myself, but didn't have the means to travel to the rodeo so I decided that it would be better to sell her to someone who could enjoy her and vice versa.

It was an act of God that the first barrel racer who came to see her was a PERFECT match! She is at the state level for racing - and needed another horse. Even she agreed on the first day of riding her that this would never be a horse for anything besides racing once per weekend.

Turns out that the horse absolutely loved racing. She is racing and doing great now....we are all happy :).

My point is, pay attention to what your horse may be and where she came from....maybe she only has the heart to do one thing.

Good Luck!
     
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    08-17-2012, 05:14 PM
  #22
Foal
If you know pulley rein it would really help. You put one hand with the rein on the horses neck and pull back using only the outside rein. It's almost fool proof
     
    08-17-2012, 07:01 PM
  #23
Weanling
What my old trainer used to make me do was:
Say whoa like you mean it
Squeeze a little with your knees and stop moving your seat while giving half halts
Then if she still doesn't stop take your outside rein and turn her into the fence.

Be careful with the last one to stay balanced so you don't fall, but I found that about an hour using these techniques helps. You have to be patient, but my horse stops off my voice now and before he would run away with me.
     
    08-17-2012, 07:26 PM
  #24
Showing
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Originally Posted by Elana    
The answer is not running the horse into the ground until stopping is a reward...
I agree wholeheartedly with this. I used to do this when I was young and dumb thinking that it would calm them down, and it would....until they caught their breath. Then they'd be wanting to go just as bad as before and every time I did it, they'd get more fit so I'd have to run them farther and farther before they were wanting to stop. Soon enough, I'd end up with a horse that could run farther than I could ride.


As for how to fix the problem, you've gotten excellent advice from TexasGal and Beau. Just stick with it, be patient, and stay consistent.
     
    08-17-2012, 07:37 PM
  #25
Green Broke
While the running advice to tire one out may work for an experienced rider? For someone who is NOT experienced, that advice will get someone killed, and possibly the horse too.

I don't know your level of experience of course, but would judge that it isn't much, since you are having trouble with this.

I'd stay at walk for a while, reinforcing your cues and the response from the horse. Ideally, you want the softest lightest cues, almost a feather touch. That comes from repeatedly working with the horse, until it is responsive.

And much of the responsiveness comes from your handling on the ground too.

For instance, if when you halter horse, you immediately take off walking, or mount, your horse moves off, you have taught the horse to not wait for your cues. That will lead to a horse ignoring you down the line. Periodically when walking, you should stop horse, (on ground) and make it stand patiently beside you, while you decide when to move off, same when you first go up. Sit there and then ask horse to move out.

Stop horse and just stand there when mounted. Same when haltering, wait for a few minutes in the stall or pasture, before leading.

It may also be your hands are not steady, or your seat isn't, and horse is running through your hands because of it. Work on your balance, your cuing, and your horse skills would be what I would do.

But until you can effectively stop a horse, you don't need to be doing anything more than a walk.
     
    08-17-2012, 08:18 PM
  #26
Started
Hi,
First I can say I have been in the same boat you are in! I have a horse that did not stop in the way I wanted as fast as I wanted. I was told by the person who trained him to put him in a kimberwick. She told me the only way to stop him was to have this kimberwick on. I recently went for my first set of lessons on him. The first thing the trainer said is "he knows how to stop and he has good brakes". I was tensing. I did not really realize it. I had sort of noticed but not the full extend. My horse stops on a release in rein pressure not an increase in asking. So, I have to sponge the reins and think stop or slow and he does it. I moved him down to a snaffle and he does have good brakes I just have to remember how to apply them.

I would suggest that you see a good trainer. Your horse might not have great brakes or you might be asking him wrong.

I would also see if your horse stops off voice commands. My horse will stop on a voice command which is handy under-saddle. I give my rein/seat cue for a stop and he does not do so within a certain amount of time I give a voice command. When you walk your horse try thinking stop and sponging your reins.
     

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