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post #1 of 16 Old 03-13-2013, 02:14 PM Thread Starter
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My horse won't trust me

Hi, I have a horse Named Troy. He is 7 years old and won't respect me or trush me. He always turns away from me in his stable, and kicks out when
I go behind him. He acts like he is scared of me, but is a dream to ride.


Any advice? And please be nice, because I love him as you love your own horses.....
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post #2 of 16 Old 03-13-2013, 02:18 PM
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2 Words: Ground work

Look into Clinton Andersons ground work for respect training series
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post #3 of 16 Old 03-13-2013, 02:20 PM
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Agree 1000000000% with countrylove.

Groundwork, groundwork and more groundwork. I did nothing but ground work for the first three months I had my gelding.

Clinton Anderson is a personal favorite of mine (would kill to take Aires to one of his seminars!!!).
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post #4 of 16 Old 03-13-2013, 02:25 PM
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Look into Clinton Andersons ground work for respect training series
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ditto
Ditto, again

A Jack and Three Queens, the latest book by James C. Dedman, Amazon.com
Hope that you fall in love with "Trot", like I did! http://www.horseforum.com/general-of...queens-617793/
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Look into Clinton Andersons ground work for respect training series
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ditto
Ditto, again
ditto once more

A Jack and Three Queens, the latest book by James C. Dedman, Amazon.com
Hope that you fall in love with "Trot", like I did! http://www.horseforum.com/general-of...queens-617793/
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post #6 of 16 Old 03-13-2013, 02:27 PM
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That's not all a lack of trust but also a lack of respect.

I'm agreeing with the CA recommendation. It really works!
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I don't wanna hijack the thread but I'm going to the Walkabout tour here in Oregon. I'm very excited!

Back to the OP: I had a pushy, disrespectful and sometimes aggressive mare who I couldn't trust around kids or inexperienced people. I used Clinton Anderson's techniques along with a few others... spent months and I mean months doing ground work. Everyone kept asking me why I didn't just start riding her. My answer is simple, if I didn't establish respect, I wouldn't get trust and if I didn't have trust then I couldn't "safely" ride her.

Now:




So obviously Clinton Anderson and ground work make a huge difference :)
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Thanks guys, I have reserched Clint Anderson, and he looks great!
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post #9 of 16 Old 03-13-2013, 03:21 PM
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Remember how horses learn, they learn by pressure and release of pressure. So if you go into the stall, you're putting pressure on the horse because you're asking the horse to turn and be caught. The horse responds to that pressure by resisting and turning his butt towards you and threatening to kick, so you back off, releasing the pressure and he learns that he did the right thing.

Also, many horses only do things because they feel like doing it, not because you're asking them to do it. So you may saddle a horse up and ride them around and think you're in control the whole time, but really the horse is just letting you do it because it's what he feels like doing. As soon as you ask the horse to do something he doesn't really want to do like walk past a scary bush or go back to the arena when he was facing towards the stables, that's the point you get bucked off because you're not in control. He is, and he's going to put you in your place like he would to a disobedient foal.

It sounds like you don't know a whole lot about horse behavior, but is it something you're interested in? You could just have a trainer work with you all the time and just ride for pleasure, but if you want to be a leader to your horse and know how to handle difficult situations when they come up, it's best to do a lot of research into horse behavior and learn how horses respond to eachother in a herd, because that is only how horses think of people. Your horse doesn't think of you as a human who leads him around, your horse thinks of you as another horse. You want to be the alpha horse among your horses, but right now you are the foal and you are the one getting pushed around.
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post #10 of 16 Old 03-13-2013, 03:26 PM
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Chris Irwin has some pretty good ground training stuff as well!

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