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post #1 of 16 Old 02-02-2012, 12:56 PM Thread Starter
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Cool My mare is being stubborn!

Hey everyone! I have a 7 yr old solid paint mare who I'm currently re-training. Her previous owners never professionally trained her or really trained her at all. They just jumped on her back bareback and rode her with a halter. She lunges well and listens well under saddle at a walk, but I'm having problems with her trot. She's very, very fast. She will lunge slow at trot, but under saddle, she's like a speeding bullet. I sit deep in the saddle, but she will not slow down the least bit. Any suggestions?

Also, when she decides she wants to be done, she will come to a dead stop and refuse to move. It's as if the ride has run out of quarters...lol. Any suggestions on how to get her going? I've tried turning her, playing with her head, leg aids, seat aids, and yet she will stand like a statue and refuse to move. Thanks everyone in advance for any help, suggestions, ideas, comments!
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To me, that screams "bad saddle fit". She is ok on the lunge, but when you sit deep in the saddle she either tries to run out from under the discomfort, or stops and refuses. I think she may be trying to tell you something.

That's what comes to mind first.
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I hear poor fitting tack too. It could also be a mixture of her past training as well. Both of my horses would stop too, bringing them off balance would help and they'd walk on for a little while. It's hard to say, though, until you rule out saddle fit.

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I thought it was poor fitting tack at first as well, but my trainer checked her saddle and the fit is good. Sorry...meant to put that in my posting earlier!
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What happens when she trots fast, do you let her do it, do you circle, do you make her walk most of it, do you push her into a canter?

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When she goes fast, I will circle her first and if that doesn't work, I will pull her to a walk.
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Balance issues with the rider.

Does she feel heavy on the front end?
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I'm thinking she has either a balance problem or teeth. If the bit hurts, a horse will often run into the pain, not away from it. Try a knotted halter as it may eliminate if the problem is in her mouth or not.
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Well, this is going to sound counter productive but keep trotting her. Trot trot trot, and don't walk until she starts to relax. If you keep pulling her into a walk, she may keep trotting like that.

Put down a few poles to trot over (spaced out really far) and do lots of figures that don't have a pattern whatso ever. I mean circle, then do a figure eight, then a serpentine pattern, then switch directions, then figure eight, then do 4 circles in the corners, then a half circle to reverse, then more serpentines, etc. Keep her guessing, just make sure you are using your body to ride and turn, not your hands.

If you post, (which I recommend) work on putting more weight down and slowing your posting speed, that will help her out. If you're sitting it, it's easier to get left behind, give mixed signals, or whatnot when the horse is just kind of going instead of listening.

Which style do you ride? What is she doing when you trot her? Is her head up, is it down, is she leaning on you, is she plowing around like a tractor? Is she light on her feet and breathing in short shallow breaths?
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She's not really heavy in front. I am going to try the knotted rope halter and see if that makes a difference. I ride western and when I first ask for the trot, her head will go up and then after a couple strides, she will drop her head and relax, but just go very fast.
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