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  • Will a horse with kissing spine run and buck when not under saddle
  • Kissing spines won't trot

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    06-06-2012, 06:07 PM
On some under developed horses, - say under fed or under muscled - the spine runs very close to the surface of the back. If a fibre glass crop - or worse a wooden stick - were to have come down on the spine ( as punishment) it might well damage the joints. That sort of damage might come if the horse had been 'thrashed'. Some handlers still believe that horses can be beaten into obedience or punished for perceived disobedience
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    06-06-2012, 06:16 PM
Have you tryed sweaty saddle blankets? If all else fails take your horse out every dayand just trot trot trot trot trot and after that trot trot and trot somemore. I don't know if that will help but it helps some hard cases. Im not saying to work them into the ground but just go somewhere and just trot.
    06-06-2012, 06:47 PM
I've myself ve been looking up 'Kissing Spine' on the Internet - there are a lot of references to the problem. It seems once diagnosed and located it can be cured - but it looks to be an expensive and time consuming treatment.

I have no experience of the ailment myself but I daresay others on the Forum have.
    06-06-2012, 07:17 PM
Never seen that before, but then I'm not a Dressage or Jumper participant or trainer. That indeed looks very painful and would induce even the best horse to freak.
    06-06-2012, 07:31 PM
If it were kissing spine she'd be walking with a shuffle in her back end. Her attitude may be the reason she went to auction. She learned how to get away with stuff and when the first thing isn't curtailed, it magnifies. I agree with Cowboybowhunter; lots of wet saddleblankets take the stupid out of a horse. Horse have a need to conserve energy but that all important burst of speed should a predator show up. Take her out and don't bring her home until she's danged tired which means about 30 miles. If she wants to trot, good, keep her going and when you feel her lug, push her on. Show no mercy. She'll be a better horse for it.
    06-06-2012, 08:12 PM
If a horse which is in pain from walking or carrying a rider is worked hard then it will make the problem worse and also bring severe distress to the horse.
It is better to know the cause of the problem before suggesting a treatment.
    06-06-2012, 08:15 PM
Take her to a good trainer.
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    06-07-2012, 10:08 AM
Originally Posted by Barry Godden    
If a horse which is in pain from walking or carrying a rider is worked hard then it will make the problem worse and also bring severe distress to the horse.
It is better to know the cause of the problem before suggesting a treatment.
Some horses just have a attitude too. It sounds like she has checked out all problems it would be my guess she is a attitude problem. And don't like people riding her.
    06-07-2012, 11:39 AM
I would not give up on the mare!!!! Just invest more time in your ground work, make more things than just lunging her around. What kind of exercises do you do. Maybe she needs to gain more confidence and needs to trust you more before she accepts you on her back, the best way to do so is ground work. And I mean diffrent things, not just let her go or run in a circle. Make it fun and make sure that she respects you. Try not to move to much when you stand in the middle, let her go around you without you moving your feet! Make her change directions in walk, trot, canter. Make her stop out of the canter and make her canter out of the stop. Make her back up and come into you but make sure that you invite her in to you and that she does not do that by herself without you asking. See how respectful she really is and act fast, correct the smallest bad thing as quick as possible and give her lots of time when she does something good! It takes time but I had a horse that was just perfect on the ground (after more than a year of ground training) and she would not even let me come close to the stirrups to mount. It took so much time to gain her trust and once I got on and she trusted and accepted that, it took about 2 trail rides and about 2 hours in the arena and that horse had like something switched in her brain and she started learing to respond and respect me on her back. She is now really well under saddle and a super safe horse to ride, BUT - it took about 2.5 years to get there.... Be patient and as you do not know what really happend to that horse just assume the worst and try to be understanding but firm. I am sure you will be able to enjoy your horse at the fullest soon!
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    06-07-2012, 11:48 AM
I spent the next few days having someone hold her and playing around with her, putting my weight across her, in the stirrup, and none of that bothered her. I had someone hold her when I stepped in and climbed on, no issue. She understood my leg aid for a walk and a trot, but not a canter. The vet said she had a pregnancy before, and it caused her to be off balance, so she can't find her balance to canter quite yet. (She's a lot better now! She canters perfectly while free lunging!) I figured we'd take it step by step until she started barrel kicking out at every horse I rode by. I rode for a half hour - hour everyday 5 days a week with another horse in the ring to get her used to the fact that she has to share. Eventually that came to a stop but something else I learned about her was that if you give her her head to relax, she will jump and buck and spin and once that starts, she will not give up twisting her body in every direction to dismount you.
Take your time, work with a trainer, and don't do so much with her all at once!! End on a good note. If you have to do something that provokes a violent or outrageous reaction, break it down for her.

Cantering after a lot of time off is not a "she as pregnant and lacks balance" thing.. it's a stamina, muscle-memory, strength thing. If she doesn't canter under saddle for a long time, she'll be rusty. Baby or no baby, that's the truth.

It sounds like you've gotten far with her already from bucking with weight in the stirrup to now worrying about cantering. Get her all nice at the walk and trot first.

And I wouldn't rule out pain yet.

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