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        01-18-2013, 02:14 PM
      #41
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    Originally Posted by usandpets    
    Did you start this routine from the beginning or did you bring her slowly back into work? She could still have sore muscles.

    Also, you didn't answer if she reared the first time you got on her.
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    I have slowly worked her up to where her training is now. I apologize I thought that I had mentioned she did it to me once but I could be mistaken :) She did it to me the first time I rode her after moving her to new barn, has not done it to me since
         
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        01-18-2013, 02:26 PM
      #42
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    Originally Posted by MickeysMama    
    I have slowly worked her up to where her training is now. I apologize I thought that I had mentioned she did it to me once but I could be mistaken :) She did it to me the first time I rode her after moving her to new barn, has not done it to me since
    My young boy has reared on two people but never on myself. I had a trainer doing some work on him for me, working on a few things that I could not teach him myself being a novice. Part way through the ride Max decided he had had enough. So he started rearing. He reared about 4 times then gave up when the trainer kept pushing him forward and very grudgingly did what was asked of him.

    I spoke to the trainer about this after as my reaction was worry that he would start doing this to me. However the trainer felt it was because he had no bond at all with Max. He was just some random guy who got on him and started asking him to work and Max decided that he wasnt happy about it.

    He has also reared on another girl when she asked him to go through some water. Max hates water on his feet (i'm working on this) he had no bond with her and decided to try and throw his weight around abit to avoid the water so he reared on her.

    However with myself he has never reared up. I can get him to walk through water. Yes I have to persude him that it is fine, and no he is not allowed to try and jump it. But he will do it. With him I think it is a bond/leader position and he trusts me enough that he puts up with and handles what I ask of him.
         
        01-18-2013, 02:35 PM
      #43
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    Originally Posted by Liligirl    
    My young boy has reared on two people but never on myself. I had a trainer doing some work on him for me, working on a few things that I could not teach him myself being a novice. Part way through the ride Max decided he had had enough. So he started rearing. He reared about 4 times then gave up when the trainer kept pushing him forward and very grudgingly did what was asked of him.

    I spoke to the trainer about this after as my reaction was worry that he would start doing this to me. However the trainer felt it was because he had no bond at all with Max. He was just some random guy who got on him and started asking him to work and Max decided that he wasnt happy about it.

    He has also reared on another girl when she asked him to go through some water. Max hates water on his feet (i'm working on this) he had no bond with her and decided to try and throw his weight around abit to avoid the water so he reared on her.

    However with myself he has never reared up. I can get him to walk through water. Yes I have to persude him that it is fine, and no he is not allowed to try and jump it. But he will do it. With him I think it is a bond/leader position and he trusts me enough that he puts up with and handles what I ask of him.
    After one person mentioned it I began thinking about it more and have come to realize that my sister has not lunged my horse before, my husband has but I was in the middle with him as extra support because he did not know how. I think that I may have found the issue so we are going to work on some ground work for the humans so to speak. They are going to learn to lunge with a different horse and then begin lungeing mine..I am hoping that this is the issue because everything else has been ruled out. I checked the obvious but pain, saddle fit etc weren't the issue so now I am going to try this and hope that we found the cause. :)
         
        01-18-2013, 02:37 PM
      #44
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    Originally Posted by MickeysMama    
    After one person mentioned it I began thinking about it more and have come to realize that my sister has not lunged my horse before, my husband has but I was in the middle with him as extra support because he did not know how. I think that I may have found the issue so we are going to work on some ground work for the humans so to speak. They are going to learn to lunge with a different horse and then begin lungeing mine..I am hoping that this is the issue because everything else has been ruled out. I checked the obvious but pain, saddle fit etc weren't the issue so now I am going to try this and hope that we found the cause. :)
    I don't know how much of this post you have read but she only does it during mounting...once she is moving forward she does not rear. She does act up if she doesn't want to work but she is slowly coming out of that.
         
        01-18-2013, 03:38 PM
      #45
    Green Broke
    ^^^^
         
        01-18-2013, 03:53 PM
      #46
    Green Broke
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Liligirl    
    My young boy has reared on two people but never on myself. I had a trainer doing some work on him for me, working on a few things that I could not teach him myself being a novice. Part way through the ride Max decided he had had enough. So he started rearing. He reared about 4 times then gave up when the trainer kept pushing him forward and very grudgingly did what was asked of him.

    I spoke to the trainer about this after as my reaction was worry that he would start doing this to me. However the trainer felt it was because he had no bond at all with Max. He was just some random guy who got on him and started asking him to work and Max decided that he wasnt happy about it.

    He has also reared on another girl when she asked him to go through some water. Max hates water on his feet (i'm working on this) he had no bond with her and decided to try and throw his weight around abit to avoid the water so he reared on her.

    However with myself he has never reared up. I can get him to walk through water. Yes I have to persude him that it is fine, and no he is not allowed to try and jump it. But he will do it. With him I think it is a bond/leader position and he trusts me enough that he puts up with and handles what I ask of him.
    If you have to "persuade" him to do it that does not speak of a much better than the behavior you are describing with him under other riders. As to the bond/leader, if that were the case you wouldn't be having to "persuade" him to do what you are asking....nor does the fact htat he "puts up with" rather than willingly doing.
         
        01-18-2013, 04:10 PM
      #47
    Started
    Maybe you could have someone film your mounting and moving forward and then your sister mounting and the horse rearing. Could be someone will notice something, other than just the mounting block. And by the way, does she mind you using the mounting block?

    Lizzie
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        01-18-2013, 05:36 PM
      #48
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    Originally Posted by FeatheredFeet    
    Maybe you could have someone film your mounting and moving forward and then your sister mounting and the horse rearing. Could be someone will notice something, other than just the mounting block. And by the way, does she mind you using the mounting block?

    Lizzie
    That is a good idea I will look into having an extra person come to film. Thanks.

    As to the mounting block..she will not walk close to it (will move her hind end away from it) but if moved next to her she stands fine.
         
        01-18-2013, 07:36 PM
      #49
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    Originally Posted by themacpack    
    If you have to "persuade" him to do it that does not speak of a much better than the behavior you are describing with him under other riders. As to the bond/leader, if that were the case you wouldn't be having to "persuade" him to do what you are asking....nor does the fact htat he "puts up with" rather than willingly doing.
    A few points on your reply

    First point: You seem to have mistaken me for the original poster. Which I am not.

    Second point: I was not aware that young green horses newly backed came with all the knowledge and experience to handle anything you put in front of them. My mistake I will have a chat with him and tell him that he needs to grow up and realise he is a big horse and not allowed to worry about anything.

    Third point: I state im a novice so yea I do think he "puts up with" alot from me. I do not have the best balance, i'm not yet the sharpest with teaching him queues for things. But the fact that he works through it with me (yes with me) rather than dumping me on my butt (which would not be a hard task) I think shows that he does infact do things willingly for me!

    Forth point (more for the heck of it): I have a very well behaved boy, who can hack out by himself happily, who will calmly take any position when out with other horses. His first trip to the forest he took the lead and didnt look back, however is also happy to bring up the rear. He is polite, moves out of your space when asks, heck when carrying a feed bucket I just have to look at him with my "mare glare" (which I practice in the mirror) and he will immediately back off me, put his head down and wait for me to walk away from it. I think all this combined with the fact that I am a novice, I have only a years exprience working with horses I am doing pretty well with him.

    Ok rant over now.
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        01-18-2013, 08:22 PM
      #50
    Weanling
    Liligirl---I was really hoping you or someone else would defend you on that one!!!! ^^^ Very inappropriate and arrogant and misinformed.
         

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