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    01-24-2011, 09:55 PM
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My OTTB won't stay on the rail when riding Help!!!

Ok so I have a 6 yr old OTTB I just started to work with him and he's a great horse just very green.. The problem I'm having is he bows out and will not stay on the rail when I'm riding him. I try using my inside rein and leg to push him over but he just doesn't understand. He will turn his head towards the rail but he keeps his body bowed out and won't move over. I'm going to start lessons with him in feb, but I wanted some advice in the mean time.
So how do I teach him to move off of pressure?
Also he's really mouthy with the bit. He's got about a 1/4 inch on each side of his mouth so it fits and it's a french link so it shouldn't be pinching. Could it be hurting him??
     
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    01-24-2011, 10:20 PM
  #2
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My guess is that he doesn't really understand to move off pressure, either leg or bit pressure. He may need reeducating on how to give to the bit, and how to move laterally.
Get off the rail and ride him in the middle and do lots of work bending him and asking him to step over sideways. YOu might even have to back down further and work with him on the ground having him give to a rope halter and move off your hand pushing on his girth area.
He isn't going to go like a normal 6 year old because of the lack of riding horse training, but you can fill in those gaps by going back to basics. If you don't, you will be riding a horse that really is stiff and resistant and not very controllable, and ultimately , that is a dangerous ride.
     
    01-24-2011, 10:29 PM
  #3
Weanling
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Originally Posted by Buckcherry    
Ok so I have a 6 yr old OTTB I just started to work with him and he's a great horse just very green.. The problem I'm having is he bows out and will not stay on the rail when I'm riding him. I try using my inside rein and leg to push him over but he just doesn't understand. He will turn his head towards the rail but he keeps his body bowed out and won't move over. I'm going to start lessons with him in feb, but I wanted some advice in the mean time.
So how do I teach him to move off of pressure?
Also he's really mouthy with the bit. He's got about a 1/4 inch on each side of his mouth so it fits and it's a french link so it shouldn't be pinching. Could it be hurting him??
By bowed out, do you mean that his whole body is bent the wrong way completely? Sounds like you may be getting stuck and in that situation I personally would start doing lots of circles and serpentines. Sometimes I ride an ottb who gets so nervous that he will do that and the circles really help to get his mind off of it. I also say make lemonade where you can. If he is totally bent in another direction then just change directions. Obviously this is just in the beginning whn they are still trying to figure out what you are asking! =) I feel like circles and serpentines are the answer to many problems. Hopefully your trainer is familiar with ottbs and will be able to help guide you along but in the meantime that is what I would do. Best of luck!
     
    01-25-2011, 10:18 AM
  #4
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By bowed out I mean he has his stomach is arched towards the inside and his head turned toward the rail. He's definitely stiff and Doesnt get what I'm asking. But when I work with him on the ground he moves off pressure just fine. But I will try working him on circles and serpentines and seeing if that helps. Thanks
     
    01-26-2011, 09:54 AM
  #5
Yearling
Hi there.
I am wondering if you might take a look at your own posture and seat when you are asking this horse to move over.
If you asking him to move off the inside leg and rein you may need to open the outside rein and give this horse some direction as to where to move his/her body.
If the horse has no formal riding training he probly has not a clue as to where to go when the pressure is added. So open the outside rein while keeping some contact there.

As for you own body position....I am wondering if you adding inside leg pressure but then inadvertenly turning you upper body to the outside??? If so your sending a confusing message. Try to stay relaxed in you upper body and keep your chest and shoulder open and forward. Even tho you want the horse to move over you not really asking him to move over a lot. Just a little bit at a time.

You also do not need to be right up against the rail even if you work on keeping the horse forward and you about 5 or so feet off the raill you can work on asking him to move into that opening outside rein a little at a time. Remember to give when he does what your asking and tell him "good boy"

Hope this helps out some.

HP
     
    01-26-2011, 03:32 PM
  #6
Weanling
I agree with the above advice. When I trained my first green horse I had to learn that bending is the key to going straight. I remind myself of it again on every green horse I ride as we snake our way down the rail or weave side to side on the trail (unintentionally). Ironically, the more your horse learns to do a good circle and bend through his body, the more straight you will travel down the rail or on the trail.
     
    01-26-2011, 04:20 PM
  #7
Banned
Thanks everyone.
     
    01-26-2011, 07:32 PM
  #8
Yearling
Your welcome

Let us know how things go! SHow us some pics or video!

:)

HP
     
    01-27-2011, 06:49 PM
  #9
Trained
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Originally Posted by HalfPass    
Hi there.
I am wondering if you might take a look at your own posture and seat when you are asking this horse to move over.
If you asking him to move off the inside leg and rein you may need to open the outside rein and give this horse some direction as to where to move his/her body.
If the horse has no formal riding training he probly has not a clue as to where to go when the pressure is added. So open the outside rein while keeping some contact there.

As for you own body position....I am wondering if you adding inside leg pressure but then inadvertenly turning you upper body to the outside??? If so your sending a confusing message. Try to stay relaxed in you upper body and keep your chest and shoulder open and forward. Even tho you want the horse to move over you not really asking him to move over a lot. Just a little bit at a time.

You also do not need to be right up against the rail even if you work on keeping the horse forward and you about 5 or so feet off the raill you can work on asking him to move into that opening outside rein a little at a time. Remember to give when he does what your asking and tell him "good boy"

Hope this helps out some.

HP
Great post HalfPass :)
     

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