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post #1 of 8 Old 07-28-2013, 04:38 PM Thread Starter
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My pony bucks when I use the whip. Help!!

My 13.2 Welsh x Cob mare sometimes (not always) doesn't go into canter so I use the whip on her hard enough so she actually feels something, but not so hard I am whipping the cr*p out of her! This makes her do pretty big bucks, head down, back end up! I do have experience with bucking horses so I stay on but it makes me hesitant to use the whip on her meaning she sometimes gets away with no canter which I know is bad! However sometimes she canter perfectly and is a very good girl cantering on a hack, so this makes me think that nothing is wrong with her back, although I may be wrong. She has had her saddle checked by a saddler and it fits perfectly so I cannot think why she is bucking. Does anyone know why she may be bucking and how I could possibly stop it? Thanks in advance.
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post #2 of 8 Old 07-28-2013, 04:51 PM
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Well if all pain has been ruled out, can you try spurs? Properly used of course. I say if its not pain, she just does not want to do what you are asking of her. Training problem.

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post #3 of 8 Old 07-28-2013, 04:56 PM
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Bucking because she doesn't like the crop being used on her.

How is she on the lunge with cantering.?
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post #4 of 8 Old 07-28-2013, 05:02 PM
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Maybe you should switch to a dressage whip and tickle her behind your leg to get her to canter.

"Hard enough so she feels something" doesn't sound very soft so it may surprise her to feel that come around suddenly.

Also where are you using the crop on her?

But above all else, check to make sure that her back isn't sore.

"Strength is the ability to use a muscle without tension"
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post #5 of 8 Old 07-28-2013, 05:15 PM
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Where are you applying the whip. Use a riding crop, not a whip, and use it a little behind your leg and only three seconds after you've squeezed your calf muscle for a canter. Just bump her to start, that's all she should need. If you use it on her rump that's asking for a buck.
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post #6 of 8 Old 07-28-2013, 05:41 PM
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My 13.2 Welsh x Cob mare sometimes (not always) doesn't go into canter so I use the whip on her hard enough so she actually feels something, but not so hard I am whipping the cr*p out of her! This makes her do pretty big bucks, head down, back end up! I do have experience with bucking horses so I stay on but it makes me hesitant to use the whip on her meaning she sometimes gets away with no canter which I know is bad! However sometimes she canter perfectly and is a very good girl cantering on a hack, so this makes me think that nothing is wrong with her back, although I may be wrong. She has had her saddle checked by a saddler and it fits perfectly so I cannot think why she is bucking. Does anyone know why she may be bucking and how I could possibly stop it? Thanks in advance.
It sounds to me like she's challenging you. Do you have access to someone like a trainer who could put a few training rides on her to let her know it's not ok to buck?
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post #7 of 8 Old 07-28-2013, 06:08 PM
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I occasionally have this problem with my boy. It only happens once every couple of months, but it always goes the same. Usually on those days I'll get on and walk/trot, and when it comes time to canter he'll pick up this slow cruddy canter. I'll try to move him on with my leg, and if he doesn't respond appropriately then he gets tapped with the whip. If he doesn't buck then that's great. If he does buck then he will get spun around, tapped again, and MADE to go. . If he tries again, then it gets worse. Even after the issue has been resolved I will still touch him with the whip (remember, I'm not smacking the horse with the whip or anything) just to push the issue so to say and make sure that he isn't going to try anything else. After the "blow up" he is always a perfect saint for the entire remainder of the ride- if I say "Jump" he says "How high??" (not literally because I rarely jump, but you get the idea...) and the whip hardly needs to be touched.

With this kind of handling of the situation however, you need to be prepared for the response that the horse will give you. If you don't have the confidence to handle the horse's response, then it is best to have a more experienced and confident rider go through some training on the horse so that you can build yours, and so the bucking becomes less frequent. Assuming that you have ruled out causes of pain, in my world bucking is something that is unacceptable and should not be tolerated. My guess that she is just ticked off at the whip since the bucks directly correspond with the whip, but all other causes should be ruled out as well!
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post #8 of 8 Old 07-28-2013, 06:19 PM
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Has she ever been desensitized to the whip? It sounds like she doesn't like the feel of it.
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